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Smoking ban has Appleton (Wisconsin) fuming
THE CAPITAL TIMES ^ | 08/02/2005 | AP

Posted on 08/02/2005 10:24:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

APPLETON (AP) - At Jokers Bar, the staff of eight has been laid off. Owner Tony Schaefer said he's now working the bar with his brother.

Schaefer is among many business owners still fuming a month after a ban on smoking at all indoor workplaces was enacted in this city.

The ban was approved by 56 percent of voters in an April 5 referendum and went into effect on July 1. Madison's similar smoking ban went into effect on the same day, although there was no referendum preceding it.

"We'll be closing up" if business doesn't improve, Schaefer said. "The sad thing is we don't even know if anyone would buy it."

Some say they have reason to fume.

Nearly three-quarters of the 64 businesses that responded to a request from the Appleton Post-Crescent reported sluggish sales in the past month, most from 10 to 40 percent lower compared with last July. Some reported sales off as much as 70 percent.

Many tavern owners in Madison have made similar complaints, and sympathetic members of the City Council have already tried once, unsuccessfully, to repeal the ban.

More than 30 tavern owners in Appleton have filed a lawsuit to repeal the ban, and the Common Council this month is expected to review a proposal that would exempt taverns and bar areas of restaurants, similar to a measure proposed statewide.

For now, sales are down 35 percent at Shark's Club Billiards Bar and Grill, owner Mitchell Roepke said.

"We're a blue-collar, working-class establishment and they're the smokers. ... I'm losing $11,000 in sales in July," Roepke said.

But Connie Olson, executive director of Community Action for Tobacco Free Living, a group that pushed for the ban, said some of the negative talk becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"All customers hear are bartenders complaining. Who wants to hear that?" Olson said. "They have to get past this personal vendetta. Don't do that to customers. They need to promote their businesses as smoke-free."

Restaurants reported faring better than bars.

Family restaurants like Applebee's and Perkins, and upscale places like Black and Tan, where smoking had previously been allowed at the bar, saw no ill effect in their July revenues.

At The Bar in downtown Appleton, regular lunchtime diner Carl Schuh of Black Creek compared before and after.

"It's cleaner, fresher and airier," he said.

Several businesses said they were boosting advertising and offering specials to encourage customers to come back, while still lobbying officials for a reversal on the ban.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antismoking; appleton; bars; busybodies; nightclubs; smokingban
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To: Jotmo

This thread still alive????

You need to read all my posts. Very irritating when folks respond to a post without reading all. I said
1. Individual businesses can do what they want
2. Government to get out of all health care.

Got a problem with either of that?????


381 posted on 08/10/2005 4:28:37 PM PDT by razoroccam (Then in the name of Allah, they will let loose the Germs of War (http://www.booksurge.com))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Smoking ban has Appleton (Wisconsin) fuming

I didn't read the article or the thread... just an observation about the headline.

Just once I'd like to see a headline about smoking not use the word "fuming".. I've seen it twice today, and about a dozen times in the past month.
382 posted on 08/10/2005 4:32:36 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: razoroccam
This thread still alive????

Yea, I was browsing the state thread and linked to this one. I responded before I noticed the last post date. So sue me. If it bugs you, don't respond.

You need to read all my posts. Very irritating when folks respond to a post without reading all.

You assume to much. And you have no cause to be irritated at me, I did read the thread. I'm just wondering why you're griping at the smokers. The point of the story is that it's not their fault your being taxed to pay for health care.

I seemed to me your attitude was one of irritation toward the smokes for getting into your "pocket". I'm not the only one who thought that given the nature of a lot of the responses you've gotten.

Anyway, feel free to let the thread die again. I won't mind.

383 posted on 08/10/2005 11:05:34 PM PDT by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

Ditto... Makes too much sence.
One has to wonder if there is something more behind their agenda.
Check out http://www.canadafreepress.com/phprint.php


384 posted on 06/13/2006 5:04:32 AM PDT by AnnDeeK (Think)
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