Posted on 08/02/2005 10:20:13 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
Here's a better surname list, I think: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mtnties/surname.html
I found one name, my Grandfather's mothers maiden name so maybe that is where he got his distinctive look. I have never seen a picture of her. That side of the family is very difficult to find and info on. Thanks again.
Thanks for the link.
The ones out of Louisiana are locally known as "Redbones."
I read the same in something I scanned earlier. That would be interesting indeed.
I read the same in something I scanned earlier. That would be interesting indeed.
My grandmother's people were Black Dutch, which probably had as much to do with having a lot of Native American blood as anything else. However, they were also mixed with French Huguenots (Maupin) who were driven out of France, settled temporarily in Holland, then went on to England, then to America from there to start an early Huguenot settlement in Virginia. The Dutch reference may have come from the stopover in Holland, but there wasn't any real reason for the Black Dutch or Black Irish reference except to explain dark Indian features which were looked down on back then.
Shovel teeth. The upper front four and the lower front four teeth are not flat, but are hollowed out with a ridge just above the gum line. Also, the ridge theme also applies to the back of the skull where it meets the neck. There is a ridge there which is so pronounced that it stops the fingers from being able to trace up the back of the head. This is the way my teeth and head are, but my characteristics come from Native American heritage from both sides of my family mixed with European. Before I read about this, I used to wonder why my teeth felt like that when I ran my tongue over them, but now I know more about my ancestors and understand. I don't know about Melungeons, mine were Black Dutch. Everyone is a melange, I guess, and fascinating.
Earlier today I discovered I had shovel teeth but had my hair up so I couldn't test for the ridge on the bakc of my head....I've got the ridge too it turns out. But, I'm pretty sure I'm not Melungeon. However, if Melungeon is a mix of Mediterranean and Indian, then my Spanish and Indian mix could come pretty close, especially if my Spanish includes Moorish as the Melungeons might have been Moors as well.
I think you are probably referring to a Finnish/Asian connection. It is theorized that the Finns are related, racially and linguistically, to the Hungarians, who in turn are related to the Koreans. Interestingly, the Korean word for their own nation and language is Han-gul or Han-guk. Think also of the "Huns."
Knowing Swedish, I can tell you that the Finnish language is nothing like the Scandinavian languages of Swedish/Norwegian/Danish. And based on the Korean I used to know, and having seen Finnish, I could believe they are related.
That's very interesting. My great grandfather spoke Finnish. I wonder why.
Of course, he also spoke Spanish, English, German and French, so I guess maybe he thought it made him well rounded. Still, I wonder when/where he'd have had occasion to use it in S. Texas.
doh! is he really blue? the guy I knew was just a shade greener. more of a lovely teal shade. still, could've been the same thing. who's this guy?
Stan Jones was some Libertarian who ran for office in Montana and who had taken some silver compound to get ready for Y2K. It made his skin blue.
I knew one such person too. We grew up together.
Did he have swollen dark-blueish fingertips? He had a severe heart condition.
In boxes of old photos, there is not a redhead or blonde that appears (until about the 1970s...but that is better living thru chemistry.) We are all fair skinned, with pale olive tones, and we do tan. We are not the traditional freckled, fair haired Irish. My 'Black Irish' bloodlines come from the west coast of Ireland and County Mayo.
My dad had read (somewhere) that certain sounds (phonetic) Irish surnames were actually closer in origin to spanish than to the native irish.
That's interesting. I'm familiar with the Maupin family; some of them married into my family early on. Black Dutch tends to mean that people have NA blood. It became a euphemism at a time when it was not politically and socially correct to have mixed blood. My mom owns a vacation trailer on land that is owned by a Maupin family. And I remember Maupin's store from my college days...
According to some Irish mythology, the Irish came from Spain. And before that, Egypt, I believe.
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