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"Boomerang" generation comes home to roost
Seattle Times ^ | Monday, August 1, 2005 | Bettijane Levine

Posted on 08/02/2005 8:54:52 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: Ashamed Canadian

Eh, I agree to a point, but I try not to make sweeping generational generalizations (say that five times fast). For every selfish arrogant Gen-Y'er (or whatever they're calling today's 20-somethings) there's one who's out there busting their hump to make it...or walking patrol in Baghdad or Kabul with forty pounds of gear, in 120-degree heat, looking out for suicide bombers and IEDs.

I see your point, I never thought for a second about coming back home after graduating college, but I had to do it for economic reasons. Not all young people who have to do this are moochers. And those that are, need the steel-toed Size 12 Work Boot of Reality right up the poop chute.

}:-)4


21 posted on 08/02/2005 9:10:17 AM PDT by Moose4 (Newsflash: It's the South. In the summer. IT GETS HOT. DEAL WITH IT.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Pollon has four children, three of whom came home to live with her after their college graduations. One stayed for a year. "I thought, 'How convenient.' He's an adult who drives, and I still had a daughter in elementary school, so he could help drive her. I also thought it was not unreasonable to ask him to occasionally baby-sit. He was shocked. It was out of the question, he said. It would interfere with his social life. He refused. And I was shocked."

This paragraph speaks volumes about what sort of person her son is.
22 posted on 08/02/2005 9:10:48 AM PDT by somniferum
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To: andie74

Sadly we are wanting youngster to follow tech jobs to keep up with other countries and it is places like that where the tech jobs are at right now.

Easy to say move when you look at a significant pay cut moving to a smaller venue not to mention the high tech networking of your peers. If you work at Wal-Mart that might be feasible, but are Wal-Mart employees the ones buying houses without wheels, nope.


23 posted on 08/02/2005 9:11:23 AM PDT by One Proud Dad
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To: somniferum

And about what kind of parent she must be.


24 posted on 08/02/2005 9:11:54 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: dfwgator

Maybe...but there is something to be said for duking it out on your own. And maybe until you are 20 or so...

But 28? 29? 32 (a couple of cases I know of)???

Forget retirement. I'd be more interested in my kids saving for downpayments for their own homes so that they can get out of mine and we can have adult to adult relationships.


25 posted on 08/02/2005 9:12:08 AM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not spoiled

Jeffrey Jensen Arnett, a professor at the University of Maryland in College Park and author of "Emerging Adulthood: The Winding Road From the Late Teens Through the Twenties," says his studies of the generation have shown that they are "not spoiled and self-indulgent.

BULL FEATHERS! Mommy and Daddy has given them everything and expected nothing in return. Now they can't deal with real life.


26 posted on 08/02/2005 9:15:35 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: TASMANIANRED
What do you want to bet this happens more with liberal parents than conservative parents.

Also, in that case, the children of liberal parents should move to where the pastures are green. Literally, where the housing prices are not out of whack.

27 posted on 08/02/2005 9:17:54 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: One Proud Dad

We faced this very thing ourselves. And we lived in Austin. You get an apartment. You decide that for a time to get where you want to be, you sacrifice. You can get a two bedroom apartment in Austin in a decent area for about $800 a month. You find a roommate to share expenses with. You forgo the brand new car and get a used one, or you get an apartment near your work and you bike. You forgo meals out for lunch or nightlife. If you want to meet people, you find a church. And you put money away like mad.

And you have an extraordinary amount of pride as your income increases, as it will if you work hard. Eventually, you have enough downpayment for a house, and you trade in the rent payment for a mortgage payment. And you don't get to live in Travis County, but you live in Round Rock, Pflugerville, or Buda.

It can be done. We are living proof.


28 posted on 08/02/2005 9:18:42 AM PDT by andie74 ("No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent." -- John Jay)
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To: dfwgator

I wouldn't mind it a bit as long as there was enough room for everyone. I think the extended family can deal with life's ups and downs much better than when separated.


29 posted on 08/02/2005 9:19:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Ashamed Canadian

"Ah, the Playstation generation is proving their worth."

Don't worry, the Gen X'rs will be here shortly to blame the ill's of the world on the boomers.


30 posted on 08/02/2005 9:19:17 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Trampled by Lambs

"I told my wife - the best thing to get an 18 year old for his birthday is suitcases."

My Dad gave me a ride to the recruiting station.


31 posted on 08/02/2005 9:20:05 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Moose4

My son is in exactly the same position that you were in at 23. He has just graduated, completed an internship in London, and we sold the house that he was living in while in school. Unfortunately, the house was very nice and he can't even hope to support himself in the style to which he has become accustomed. To top it off, we are building a house and living in a temporary rental, a 30 year old double wide. He has no where to sleep if he comes home, except a pull out couch!


32 posted on 08/02/2005 9:20:07 AM PDT by Eva
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To: One Proud Dad

Yep, the real estate "investors" have made the good life at the expense of our kids. And, they can take that to the bank. Their properties aren't worth more, the dollar is worthless (not a typo).


33 posted on 08/02/2005 9:22:28 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

"I think one thing this article fails to mention is the selfish, superficial nature of the current generation"

Most teenagers are that way. It just takes time to get a little perspective. Most youngsters think they know it all. I look back now and wished I'd listened to the advice of my parents instead of learning the hard way but that's the way of the world.


34 posted on 08/02/2005 9:22:28 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: dfwgator
People don't realize just how much difference it makes to start saving for retirement in their 20s, rather than starting in their 30s, even a little money goes a long way if you have that extra ten years of interest.

I wished I had listened to my father when I was younger. A thoussand dollars a year for 40 years at 10% interest will be a million dollars. I wasted so much money when I was young.

35 posted on 08/02/2005 9:25:09 AM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Cannonette

ping


36 posted on 08/02/2005 9:26:40 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Kandahar Airfield -- “We’re not on the edge of the world, but we can see it from here")
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To: somniferum
After college I moved back in with my parents with the intention that it was temporary. I was in management training and would be a manager in 6 to 9 months, at which point I would be making enough money to go it alone.

I ended up getting engaged within 6 months at which point Mom decided I needed to save every cent possible before the wedding (and she was right). I ended up living with M & D for about 2 years. While they refused to accept rent payments, I helped around the house, did my own laundry, helped cook, etc., until we got married. My wife and I had bought a condo (pre-construction) and we were going to move in together as soon as we got back from our honeymoon...

Life lesson #23: Never believe them when they tell you when your construction/remodeling job will be done.

Our condo was supposed to get its certificate of occupancy on 3/27 and we were getting married 4/26. As 3/27 neared, they kept pushing the date back. The weekend before we got married they informed us of a major snafu that was changing our closing/occupancy from 5/2 to 10/6!

Fortunately Mom and Dad lived in a 4 bedroom house by themselves, so they had no problem letting us stay there.

A word of advice to all newlyweds - avoid spending your first six months of marriage living under the same roof as your parents!!! Mom and Dad were wonderful and generous, but this living situation adds a dynamic to your marriage that you would be best to avoid!
37 posted on 08/02/2005 9:27:42 AM PDT by Crusher138 (Support capitalism. Shop, buy, rinse, repeat.)
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To: Betty Jane
A thoussand dollars a year for 40 years at 10% interest will be a million dollars.

The stock market has gone nowhere for the last 5 years despite a 50% debasement of the money supply; interest rates are below the true rate of inflation.

Where are you going to find 10% a year for 40 years?

38 posted on 08/02/2005 9:30:07 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: andie74

Don't know about those places, but here you would need several roommates just to pay rent. Then there's food ($3 for a loaf of bread, a buck for a bottle of water (you can't drink the tap water), and utilites.

Somebody is living a grand life, but it isn't the younger generation. And how are they supposed to make a living, unless they flip burgers. All of the real jobs either are extinct, or went overseas. If it ain't plastic and made in China, you can't find it. And then you can't afford it.


39 posted on 08/02/2005 9:30:40 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"Social scientists have blamed this "boomerang" syndrome on a variety of economic factors: a tight job market, low salaries for entry-level jobs and the high cost of rent and large student-loan "

How about the years of education of learning meaningless crap? The biggest waste of time is teaching children and young adults how to write like novelists when they really need to just learn to write to communicate. They have no idea how to use the tools around them to create business.
40 posted on 08/02/2005 9:30:40 AM PDT by Porterville (Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
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