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To: Toespi

You neglected to include the statistics for the 'hamlet' where Natalee lives:

Mountain Brook:
Murders are 0.00 times the national average
Forcible Rapes is 0.14 times the national average
All Violent Crimes is 0.10 times the national average

Now...let's take yet another look at the numbers at the site from which you took them...

Birmingham had 85 murders rating 4.63 times NA, 204 rapes rating 2.34 times NA....Yet Baltimore had 270 murders at 5.48 time NA, 204 (yes the same as Birmingham) but shown as 0.87 times the NA.

You want to talk about violent crime and it's impact on the human awareness you should talk raw numbers. When large numbers are manipulated to produce a certain outcome, well you can make them say just about anything you want them to say. The example is clear in comparing 204 rapes in Birmingham to 204 rapes in Baltimore. The National Average is what it is. When you compare the breakout numbers they still have to come to 100% to produce the variable. This does not.

But the suburbs are looking good on the crime front. Mountain Brook's violent crime rate is probably among the best in the nation.

I'm not sure why you are so determined to have people believe that Natalee was "street wise" enough to have been aware of the danger she obviously found herself in. Is this part of the "find anything you possibly can to disparge the victim no matter how small" process? You keep doing that and it makes no difference.

You have made the point that you want her to share the blame. That's what you do. Many others don't agree and no matter how many numbers you point out here there are valid offsets that will explain it away. That's what numbers have been used for for a very long time.

I live in a small town...I'm speaking from experience. (and for the person from Raliegh, NC...were you aware that most southerners don't really consider NC as a southern state?) Sorry, but they jsut don't. I have family who relocated to Asheville and Hendersonville...they don't really think of themselves as "in the South" anymore.


1,613 posted on 08/05/2005 7:42:21 AM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: truthluva

Well I suppose all those confederate statues in the town squares in NC are really union soldiers in disguise?

Laugh.. how absurd. Believe me - NC is a very "southern state".


1,621 posted on 08/05/2005 8:05:02 AM PDT by pamlet
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To: truthluva
With all due respect, that's just plain ridiculous. Better go back over the history of the War Between the States. A lot of mighty fine CSA troops hailed from NC.
1,629 posted on 08/05/2005 8:23:05 AM PDT by varina davis
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