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lets try again, weasel...

post 1182you wrote:
From everything we know about the relationship between NH and JVDS, there is no reason to believe she did not go with him willingly. They had been hanging around with each other for days.

post 1189 I wrote:
(for brevity in THIS post, I have snipped the relevant Byrd/McVay statements from the Greta transcript in 1189)

parse what you (w)rote with this:

"On the Record," June 21, 2005
MCVAY: We were in our hotel casino. And that was the first night that she had ever met him. Contrary to other stories that are circulating, she did not know him before that night.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And when you say the fist night, was that the night of May 29 into the 30th, when she missed her flight home?
MCVAY: Yes, ma'am.
VAN SUSTEREN: And Ruth, how did you happen to notice him? What was it about him that caught your attention?
MCVAY: He didn't. He was sitting at our blackjack table, and he just seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn't flirting. He wasn't really outgoing at all. And Natalee, just in passing, introduced herself and walked off. And nothing was strange or out of the ordinary about him at all.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did there come a time when Natalee made some sort of date — I don't mean a date, I mean, an arrangement — with him, with you, with everybody, to go to Carlos and Charlie's?
MCVAY: Not with him. Absolutely not. With us. She went with all of our friends. He wasn't with us. He didn't go with us.
VAN SUSTEREN: How is it, Ruth, that both Joran and Natalee both ended up at Carlos and Charlie's?
MCVAY: He came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up.

post 1212 you wrote:
I saw the interview went it was first aired. I heard what these two said, but Frances Ellen Byrd made a conflicting statement. Also, I believe many of the kids later conceded they were too drunk to have a really good handle on exactly what transpired.

bunch of crap, TbV

you wrote that N and J had been carrying on for days.....and I showed you the fact of what was said, specifically that N had just met J in the casino just prior to attending C & C's.......the supposed "conflicting statement" was due to time constraints inposed on the same girl on another show, and because of the constraint her respobne was to "leave it at that".....and what she "left at that" was that N had been seen at the HI that nite (between the beach concert and going to C & C's, which was "that nite"), NOT that N & J had been carrying on for days. 2 different issues.......and there is no conflicting statement from Frances Byrd, but SOME of you and your kind never quit trying to make it appear that there was.
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Now, do you want to reply to this directly, or continue to weasel?