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Mark my words, this guy will be the next President. He'll slay Hilary, pretend to be a real centrist, and run to the RIGHT of Rudy, McCain, or Romney if they're elected by the GOP. He'd also give Allen a tough race. After 8 years of the GOP in power, I think he stands an excellent chance of winning. I hate the prospect of ANY Dem winning, but I've felt this for a long time, and still do. I'm sure most fellow FReepers will disagree. He'll take Indiana, and maybe a southern state or two... That's all he'd need.
1 posted on 08/02/2005 6:51:29 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican

Is anyone else worried about this guy? He doesn't have the negative baggage that Hilary has... Can't be labeled a lib, and I believe he has solid military experience, and has been to the right of most libs. Would love to know what his weaknesses are.


2 posted on 08/02/2005 6:55:28 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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"Mark my words, this guy will be the next President"

I'm marking them and he won't be. The southern states and midwesterners outside of Indiana know what a flip-flopping opportunist he is. He tries to triangulate too much with the left and is an unaccepatble candidate to Christian voters.


7 posted on 08/02/2005 7:06:51 AM PDT by DarthVader (Islam is not something to be understood, it is something that must be utterly destroyed)
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Bayh is a scary candidate. He'd run to the right of the Guliani or MeCain and win.

Hopefully we'll run a real conservative who can expose Bayh for the fraud he is. Bayh may talk like Limbaugh but he votes like Ted Kennedy.

11 posted on 08/02/2005 7:13:12 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: NYC Republican
Senate
Party 2004 2003 LifeTime YOS
Evan Bayh D 20 30 22 6

Lifetime ACU rating for Bayh: 22. He could carry Indiana as a Democrat--a rarity for a Presidential contender.

The last time a Democrat carried Indiana was 1964.


12 posted on 08/02/2005 7:13:29 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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The irony is Bill picked Bayh as his Keynote speaker. If Bayh beats out Hillary, she will be livid.
14 posted on 08/02/2005 7:15:58 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: NYC Republican

I'm from Indiana and I'm also scared to death that he will fool more than enough people to win. He is a lib in every way except one...he supported the war and says all the right things about that.

Indiana is a solid conservative state, yet he got enough crossover votes to win, with large margins, two terms as Governor.

Even some of my staunch conservative (but uninformed) friends have said they could be persuaded to vote for him, proving that his lies while at home are effective. Of course, he then goes to D.C. and votes with his buddy Teddy.

I hope those of you predicting a divided dem vote are correct and he does not even make it out of the primaries.


17 posted on 08/02/2005 7:19:43 AM PDT by Purdue Pete
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1) Bayh cannot defeat Hillary in a primary.

2) A Bayh candidacy could well result in a strong 3rd party showing on the Left.


21 posted on 08/02/2005 8:02:05 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: NYC Republican; caver; DarthVader; Miss Marple; dubyaismypresident; Always Right; CitizenJ; ...
I've been saying all along that he's our worst nightmare. Hillary has no shot in a general election. Bayh would carry Indiana (11 EV's) and Richardson would carry New Mexico (5 EV's). Let's assume that they carry all the Kerry States. The GOP EV total would then be reduced from 286 to 271 (need 270 to win). I can easily see another Southwestern state like Arizona or Nevada being picked off because of Richardson to give the dems the win.

I think Allen will be our candidate (I know he's a Senator know but he was a popular Governor of Virginia). To put us back over the top we need someone from a Kerry state as the V.P nominee like Pawlenty from Minnesota to flip it back over. Hence, my tagline.

22 posted on 08/02/2005 8:12:23 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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Evan's political career got a big boost from the name recognition his father - Birch - had in the state. He is an out of nowhere candidate like Clinton. He should be watched closely.


32 posted on 08/02/2005 8:43:17 AM PDT by IamConservative (The true character of a man is revealed in what he does when no one is looking.)
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Like I've said for the past year or two, if he gets the nomination, he wins.


36 posted on 08/02/2005 9:17:33 AM PDT by mysterio
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