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To: b_sharp
"Give a link to the article you got the info from please."

HERE

If you had followed my earlier link you would have found it.

571 posted on 08/01/2005 8:07:55 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: Matchett-PI
Here are a few quotes from that very article. It does not appear as though his is in any way a creationist. I tried to include as much as possible so that I would not be accused of quote mining.

"From my perspective as a scientist working on the genome, the evidence in favor of evolution is overwhelming."

"Professor Darrel Falk has recently pointed out that one should not take the view that young-earth creationism is simply tinkering around the edges of science. If the tenets of young earth creationism were true, basically all of the sciences of geology, cosmology, and biology would utterly collapse. It would be the same as saying 2 plus 2 is actually 5. The tragedy of young-earth creationism is that it takes a relatively recent and extreme view of Genesis, applies to it an unjustified scientific gloss, and then asks sincere and well-meaning seekers to swallow this whole, despite the massive discordance with decades of scientific evidence from multiple disciplines."

"Design proponents point to the complexity of multicomponent molecular machines as unlikely products of a random evolutionary process. The argument about irreducible complexity is an interesting one. And yet I must say, the more one looks at these supposedly complex and irreducibly complex structures (whether it is the flagella, the eye, or the clotting cascade), the more one begins to see some evidence of intermediate forms that could have had some selective advantage. While not offering strong evidence against Intelligent Design, the study of genomes offers absolutely no support either. In fact, I would say— and many others have said it better—a major problem with the Intelligent Design theory is its lack of a plan for experimental verification. I view Intelligent Design ideas as an intriguing set of proposals, but I certainly do not view them as the kind of threat to evolution that its most vocal proponents imply."

It really looks as though this scientist is not one you should use to argue against evolution.

618 posted on 08/01/2005 8:36:34 PM PDT by b_sharp (Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Good link. Thanks


638 posted on 08/01/2005 8:51:26 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Matchett-PI
Note that on page 10 of your (.pdf) reference, your man, Dr Collins, says: "From my perspective as a scientist working on the genome, the evidence in favor of evolution is overwhelming." He then proceeds to give two strong arguments.

It's good to see creationists endorsing the views of scientists who strongly support evolutionary theory.

683 posted on 08/01/2005 9:24:32 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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