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China inching closer to India through Bhutan
The Times of India ^ | MONDAY, AUGUST 01, 2005 06:33:34 PM | PERCY FERNANDEZ

Posted on 08/01/2005 10:32:16 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick

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To: Hammerhead

More like storms of change. We are in the grips of a very devastating war soon.


21 posted on 08/01/2005 12:11:47 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

"You can't always believe a yoga instructor. Remember he/she is out there to make money."

Well, if you read some of the traditional hatha yoga texts, such as Shiva Samhita, Geranda Samhita, Hatha Yoga Pradipika, and so on, you will find many references that support what I said in my previous post. Of course, traditional Hatha yoga as described in those text have almost nothing to do with what is taught as Hatha yoga these days.

"Traditional yoga was always taught in Ashrams- charitable hermitages in India where you are not expected to pay anything, be it for food, medicine, accomodation, religion or yoga."

I don't pay for anything for yoga instruction beyond perhpas the price of an occassional cup of tea. Ashrams which do charitable work are good, but realistically there are probably very few there who have experienced the deeper levels of yoga because they are too busy with their service activities. The fact is that it is very hard to find a real yoga teacher whether you are in India or the U.S.


22 posted on 08/01/2005 12:12:09 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Avenger

Right, but do beware of those who are making moolah out of it, especially for what they have to say about yoga, or about Hinduism, for that matter. Most are crooks.

"Spiritual yoga instructors" with private jets isn't a very new phenomenon.


23 posted on 08/01/2005 12:15:10 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

"Right, but do beware of those who are making moolah out of it, especially for what they have to say about yoga, or about Hinduism, for that matter. Most are crooks."

Thanks for the advice but I've been around the block a few times having been involved with yoga for about 20 years now. I've pretty much seen it all. There are just as many naive Indians as there are Americans when it comes to this matter and hence the many so-called "yoga masters" continue to profit handsomely.


24 posted on 08/01/2005 12:32:19 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Avenger

So you know. Unfortunatley, like you mentioned, many in the US, and more so in India, don't.


25 posted on 08/01/2005 12:35:07 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Unfortunatley = unfortunately. My oops.


26 posted on 08/01/2005 12:35:47 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

China would claim all of the interior of India if they could. India can hope to keep their territory only by building up the economy of the interior. India needs to move as quickly as possible in this economic sphere.


27 posted on 08/01/2005 12:40:44 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Yes, the state of yoga is very sad these days. Here in the U.S. people think that yoga is about getting a tight butt and stomahce, and in India they think it is about surrendering themsevles and their money to some God-man (some in the U.S. think this too) who flies around in a jet. My personal opinion is that it is best to stay away from teachers who charge money, stay away from teachers who have more than a handful of students, stay away from teachers who encourage or even tolerate devotion to themselves, and be wary of so called swamis because very few people have reached a level where true renunciation is possible and forcing such renunciation often leads to problems of one kind or another - better to learn from someone who lives an honest, natural life, rather than some lofty swami who is headed for a fall.


28 posted on 08/01/2005 12:51:29 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: Avenger

I Agree.


29 posted on 08/01/2005 12:55:03 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

The PRC seek to gain additional high ground. As I see it, their strategy for dealing with countries in their near abroad (as well as dealing with US bases - Diego Garcia, Okinawa, etc) is to utilize SRBM and IRBM strikes as well as the newest long range cruise missiles. While the US tend to focus (overly focus) on ICBMs, for the PRC, the IRBM is the backbone. They know the US has no IRBMs and is falling behind on cruise missile technology. In a theatre-strategic scenario, the PRC may soon achieve a net advantage. Factoring in the unknown impacts of a militarily coordinated SCO (which could theoretically bring thousands of ICBMs to the table) I would say that were I doing military planning in India (or in the ASEAN countries, or, for that matter, here in the US) I would be worried.


30 posted on 08/01/2005 5:45:00 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Indeed the are. SCO, now = The Axis in training, 1930s!


31 posted on 08/01/2005 5:47:14 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the"and Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: CarrotAndStick
India is a big threat to world peace! The Indians have always considered themselves to be the heir to the former British Empire in South Asia and they have always acted aggressively to its neighbors, expecting them to bend over to the will of the new "British Empire". The result is that none of India's neighbors like India. Sri Lanka does not like India, because India supports the Tamil rebels. Pakistan is India's archenemy and India invaded Pakistan 3 times. Talk about military expansionists! Bangladesh does not like India, because it was the former West Pakistan, which was invaded by India and dismembered. Sikkim hates India, because India swallowed up Sikkim and forced its king to exile in the US. Bhutan and Nepal fear India because they don't want to be turned into another Sikkim. And the audacious Indians even demand to control Bhutan and Nepal's defense and foreign affairs. And China does not like India. Many people thinks China was the aggressor, and India was the victim. But the truth is the opposite. India considers itself to be the heir to the British Empire and wanted the Tibetan Dalai government to enforce those unequal treaties forced upon the Tibetans by the British, namely the "McMahon's Line". Even the Dalai Lama himself rejected the "McMahon's Line", how could the Chinese accept that? Besides, the Indians tried to annex Tibet and supported the Tibetan uprising against the Chinese in 1959. It later hosted the Tibetan government in exile. After India back-stabbed China in the late 1950s, it's natural to expect the Chinese to "teach the Indians a lesson" and make it very clear to India, that India cannot continue to behave like the old British colonialists. And India later claimed being back-stabbed by China. Talk about audacity!
32 posted on 08/02/2005 12:44:21 AM PDT by aperturePriority
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To: CarrotAndStick

bttt


33 posted on 08/02/2005 12:49:18 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: CarrotAndStick

Aw shoot who cares if Bhutan hands the keys of their kingdom over to China.


34 posted on 08/02/2005 12:49:21 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: The Red Zone; Cronos; swarthyguy; Gengis Khan
Ping!

aperturePriority wrote:

India is a big threat to world peace! The Indians have always considered themselves to be the heir to the former British Empire in South Asia and they have always acted aggressively to its neighbors, expecting them to bend over to the will of the new "British Empire". The result is that none of India's neighbors like India. Sri Lanka does not like India, because India supports the Tamil rebels.

Pakistan is India's archenemy and India invaded Pakistan 3 times. Talk about military expansionists! Bangladesh does not like India, because it was the former West Pakistan, which was invaded by India and dismembered. Sikkim hates India, because India swallowed up Sikkim and forced its king to exile in the US. Bhutan and Nepal fear India because they don't want to be turned into another Sikkim. And the audacious Indians even demand to control Bhutan and Nepal's defense and foreign affairs. And China does not like India.

Many people thinks China was the aggressor, and India was the victim. But the truth is the opposite. India considers itself to be the heir to the British Empire and wanted the Tibetan Dalai government to enforce those unequal treaties forced upon the Tibetans by the British, namely the "McMahon's Line". Even the Dalai Lama himself rejected the "McMahon's Line", how could the Chinese accept that? Besides, the Indians tried to annex Tibet and supported the Tibetan uprising against the Chinese in 1959. It later hosted the Tibetan government in exile.

After India back-stabbed China in the late 1950s, it's natural to expect the Chinese to "teach the Indians a lesson" and make it very clear to India, that India cannot continue to behave like the old British colonialists. And India later claimed being back-stabbed by China. Talk about audacity!

35 posted on 08/02/2005 1:05:40 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: aperturePriority
India is a big threat to world peace!

And China isn't???

36 posted on 08/02/2005 1:19:45 AM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: aperturePriority; CarrotAndStick; Jeff Head; Arjun; swarthyguy; sukhoi-30mki

Pardon me but BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


37 posted on 08/02/2005 1:23:59 AM PDT by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: aperturePriority

oooh we have monkey communist here freepers.heheheheeh
hey monkeyboy tibet will be free.whether you like it or not.

ps:now go worship your pedophile mao.lol.........commieass


38 posted on 08/02/2005 1:43:34 AM PDT by asoka
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To: aperturePriority; Cronos

You need to be more subtle than that.. AP or should I call you chicom agent?
People on FR are too smart to buy into such crap.


39 posted on 08/02/2005 2:22:50 AM PDT by Arjun (Skepticism is good. It keeps you alive.)
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To: aperturePriority

Nice communist propaganda. Enjoy your police state.


40 posted on 08/02/2005 9:07:34 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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