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Gun bill only sold out lawyers
The Daily Telegram ^ | 7/30/05 | Mark Lenz

Posted on 08/01/2005 7:44:15 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

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Feel free to send this Editor a nice thank you....he gets it!
1 posted on 08/01/2005 7:44:17 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: Mr. Mojo; basil; dbwz; Ladysmith

Mr. Mojo...could you ping the bang list? Thanks


2 posted on 08/01/2005 7:45:26 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Three cheers for this guy -- maybe his "disease" will spread to others in the MSM! Real logic and sanity -- wow, a shock!!


3 posted on 08/01/2005 7:46:14 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I’m sure there’s a judge on bench right now contemplating how this law’s an unconstitutional infringement on the right to keep and bare arms.


4 posted on 08/01/2005 7:52:05 AM PDT by elfman2 (This space is intentionally left blank)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Hallelujah!
5 posted on 08/01/2005 7:52:13 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (Walkin' the tightrope between the lost and found.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The only problem I have with this is that it wasn' t extended to all industries. As someone who has a small business on the side that makes some car accessories and who has been sued when someone purposely misused the product, I would welcome the protection from stupid lawsuits like that.

My case eventually got tossed out of court, but I still had to spend quite a bit of money and suspend manufacture for a while.


6 posted on 08/01/2005 7:52:35 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
FYI...from Cindy Adams' column in today's NY POST:

" A gun hangs in Billy Bob Thornton's doorway. Attached is the sign, "We don't dial 911."

Does this mean we have to start liking this otherwise big jerk a little?

7 posted on 08/01/2005 7:53:59 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Kind of falls into the catagory of "Liberal until being mugged".


8 posted on 08/01/2005 7:54:11 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: 2nd amendment mama
The Senate also showed good sense by approving an amendment requiring child safety locks be sold with all handguns.

How is this good sense? I don't want a child safety lock and I don't want to pay the increased cost for something I don't want and won't use. Why should the federal government force me to?

Politicians are control freaks who aren't satisfied unless they're meddling in people's personal business.

Just like the author screwed up an otherwise good commentary, the idiots in Washington screwed up an otherwise (on the surface) good bill.

9 posted on 08/01/2005 7:55:22 AM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

"The Senate also showed good sense by approving an amendment requiring child safety locks be sold with all handguns."

Does this still constitute "gun-control?"

I have a bad feeling about "requiring" gun dealers to sell anything with the gun they just sold. In our community, the NRA just handed out 10,000 trigger locks to anyone who wanted them. Requiring the gun dealer to do anything associated with the selling of a firearm is still "gun-control."

What is next? A law that requires every gun owner to have a gun lock on their guns or face a fine and jail time? I don't know, but it seems to me that the seatbelt laws started this way, first the car manufactors were "required" to have them in the car, and then, laws were passed to "require" everyone to wear a seatbelt!

Just a thought.


10 posted on 08/01/2005 7:57:04 AM PDT by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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To: Spktyr
My case eventually got tossed out of court, but I still had to spend quite a bit of money and suspend manufacture for a while.

That's why I like loser pays legislation. In general, I think people should be allowed to file lawsuits over greivances (and I've been sued frivilously three times). But if you're going to do it, you should have to compensate the person you sued for frivilous litigation.

11 posted on 08/01/2005 7:57:52 AM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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My countersuit for damages is proceeding.

The problem with loser-pays in a case like mine is that if the plaintiff doesn't have any significant assets that can be seized and sold, it's a one-sided street. I can't collect what's not there, and people don't have to post a bond to be able to sue.

Hm, maybe having to post a bond might not be such a bad idea.


12 posted on 08/01/2005 8:00:24 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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A loser pay law would go very far in doing away with nearly all frivolous laawsuits. But it makes too much sense, so I don't expect to see one anytime soon.

So becasue of that, like Spktyr, I would like to see similar protections extended to other industries.


13 posted on 08/01/2005 8:02:52 AM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
I just inadvertanly found a web site

http://www.nraleaders.com/

They are trying to stop the new legislation you are referring to and to continue the so called assault weapons band which ran out in 2004.

There is nothing new here. The usually suspect from Hollywood who want to ban the weapons used in a crime (like the DC Snipers of a few years ago), but refuse to condemn the criminals who commit them.
14 posted on 08/01/2005 8:08:15 AM PDT by wmileo
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I agree - I don't use gun locks....I have no small children living in my house so I don't need them. However, this was a good bill (on the surface) and if that's the only thing that got "added in" I can live with it so that the industry doesn't get sued out of existence.

And I don't agree with the author about that part of the bill being okay but I posted the article because it's nice to see a pro-gun editorial for a change.


15 posted on 08/01/2005 8:08:30 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Spktyr
I can't collect what's not there, and people don't have to post a bond to be able to sue.

I know an attorney who countersued someone who was suing him frivilously (over and over harassment). He received a small judgment ($3000 or thereabouts). The person had not much in the way of assets, but had a van that was worth about $800. So the attorney saw the guy parked at an office and called the sheriff's office. The guy had to empty the van there on the street as the attorney took possession. In the end, the guy declared bankruptcy within a couple of days and the attorney had to give the van back, but the lawsuits stopped and he told me there was immense satisfaction in standing by and watching the guy clean out the van.

16 posted on 08/01/2005 8:11:45 AM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I've been saying this for years.


17 posted on 08/01/2005 8:15:20 AM PDT by kx9088
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Good article.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

18 posted on 08/01/2005 8:20:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: 2nd amendment mama
Geeze! Even the headline editor can't get his "only" in the right place!
19 posted on 08/01/2005 8:24:29 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I have to agree. I fully expected to see many more damaging amendments attached to this bill. I can live with the 'gun lock with every sale' mandate, as long as I can throw the damned thing away as soon as I get it.


20 posted on 08/01/2005 8:24:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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