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Novak: The abuse of my integrity provokes this response
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 31, 2005 | Robert Novak

Posted on 08/01/2005 1:48:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Pukin Dog
You mean just a few people in the CIA right? Not the whole organization.

Now why do you need to keep repeating over and over to Freepers: The Democrats NEVER THOUGHT THEY WOULD LOSE THIS ELECTION
Well okay then.
The union changes have been happening albeit slowly for many years. Its just now getting to Sweeney.

Jesse says lots of stuff, who listens?

and why do you need to speak for Rush Limbaugh at the little Freepers?
181 posted on 08/01/2005 7:55:27 AM PDT by chariotdriver
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To: CGVet58
"at which point I thought it was certainly a manufactured scandal... created by the dhimms to distract attention from other, more important issues that stood to condemn the seditious behaviour of the dhimmicrats within."


The "seditious behaviour" is what really ticks me off, especially considering the terrorists response when one of these liberal moolahs start bellowing.
182 posted on 08/01/2005 8:03:02 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: montag813

Fitzgerald knows this. It's part of why I've said from day one that the investigation is looking at other aspects of this case.

And since this appears to be news to you, I'll let you know that Wilson's online bio used to be posted at The Middle East Institute and also listed his wife as "The former Valerie Plame".

You can bet Fitzgerald knows that, too.


183 posted on 08/01/2005 8:03:28 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: RandallFlagg

Of course she will be a hero. Look what the Media did with Susan McDougall. She spent two years in prison for contempt, because she would not testify before a grand jury about clinton.

She claimed she was in jail because she wouldn't lie, and the media repeated that claim every time she made it. Not once did the media point out that all she had to do was tell the truth to the jury and she would be free.

So of course Miller will be a hero. Just like Rove would be a hero (and we wouldn't know his name) if he was a democrat leaking stuff about a republican. In fact, if that were the case the story would be about how Bush was stifling the press by going on a witch hunt to find the brave whistle blower in his administration who dared speak the truth.


184 posted on 08/01/2005 8:08:12 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Matchett-PI

Rush will return today ~ he was supposed to have been in France for a little vacation.


185 posted on 08/01/2005 8:10:37 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Zacs Mom
With the introduction of Aldrich Ames into the mix

Those of us following the story closely from the start were aware of the Ames aspect long ago. That Novak confirms it (you can never have enough verifying sources for a New York Times article) is important, but not an "introduction" of a new fact.

Secrets of the Scandal

October 11, 2003

excerpt:

First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons.

~snip~

186 posted on 08/01/2005 8:13:41 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I am no Novak fan, but he did a national service by writing that article exposing the duplicity of the C.I.A. and "Honest Joe Wilson". Too, Ms Plume does come out of this little charade without appearing dirty.


187 posted on 08/01/2005 8:14:29 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: cyncooper
My utmost respect to you.

I consider myself up to date and well read in this matter. All I have had to do is separate the wheat from the chaff by reading all that you have posted. I think you have been ahead of the pack since the start. Once again kudos to you.

188 posted on 08/01/2005 8:17:08 AM PDT by woodyinscc
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To: syriacus
Joe said, in an interview, that Valerie wanted him to stay home to help with the twins. He said it was illogical that she would have suggested he go to Niger for 8 days.

Makes you wonder how she could take care of them, alone, when he was on tours for his book and for Kerry's campaign.

I noted that, too, after he said it. It was right after the report established Plame had written that memo recommending him for the trip.

My point about his inane comments were they didn't sound like they described a fearless Jane Bond type (I mean, how many clues does one need that the bimbo was not undercover and had not been for many many years?)---afraid to have him leave for 10 days because of two small children? That right there told me he was tacitly admitting she was not a covert spy at the time.

189 posted on 08/01/2005 8:17:39 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: leftcoaster
Is this the first time that Novak has ID'ed Harlow as one of his apparently 3 sources on the original column?

Yes (and it didn't slip by me or go over my head), but only because Harlow went public last week with his false version of what he claims he told Novak.

Since Plame was clearly not covert Harlow will not be in trouble for telling Novak she worked at the CIA. He may have lied to the grand jury about what he told Novak, but I doubt it. But he clearly has established to me he is a weasel---coming out like he did last week.

190 posted on 08/01/2005 8:21:40 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Miss Marple
All of this on the retirement pay of a mid-level bureaucrat with his wife's salary at the same level. Neither Plame nor Wilson comes from a moneyed background. WHERE did the money come from?

Simple my dear Watson, Wilson is a typical D.C. establishment crook.

191 posted on 08/01/2005 8:23:06 AM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: jammer
Many object to his stance on the WOD versus his personal life.

Except the "many" (lol) would have to know what his "stance" on the WOD was. Just making assumptions doesn't cut it.

Facts, you know. But I understand they are not revered here anymore.

192 posted on 08/01/2005 8:24:09 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Miss Marple
They bought Enron and held on?
They invested $10,000 in cattle futures?
They took financial advice from Martha Stuart?
Someone got it for them Wholesale?
They beat Geraldo to the secret room?
They have stock in small Arkansas airports?
He rolled over the retirement money from his boyhood paper route into a mutual fund.
193 posted on 08/01/2005 8:24:35 AM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!avigable waters)
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To: pageonetoo

"He always preaches to the choir, but the chorus button has become stuck...Now he just hashes, and rehashes!"




Wow...such intellect. Did you consider that the "choir" is ever growing...with new people who've never heard these things, even for the first time? He's certainly done more than you'll ever do.


194 posted on 08/01/2005 8:24:49 AM PDT by cwb (Islam is the opiate of the *asses.)
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To: cyncooper
Ah! That's good to know ~ I admit I've not followed this as closely as I might have and I was unaware of Ames already being link up with Wilson & wife ~ it just jumped off the page at me when I read the article in this thread today.

Thx for the link!

195 posted on 08/01/2005 8:26:20 AM PDT by Zacs Mom (Proud wife of a Marine! ... and purveyor of "rampant, unedited dialogue")
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To: pieces of time
Novak recently said that after October, when he is free to speak, people were going to be very surprised about his source.

No, that's not what he said. He said people would be surprised about the details of the story. Harlow is not a surprise, per se. It's merely interesting that he came out publicly lying last week. But that's a buttress of my original point about this whole story--that we had a CIA passing out lies to reporters.

196 posted on 08/01/2005 8:26:49 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: DB
I sure hope this ends the way it should. With Joseph Wilson (among others) in prison.

Too right,

Wilson and his wife used used the CIA to spread false information to undermine the POTUS and to try and influence a Presidential Election. That is sedition,

SEC. I Be it enacted . . ., That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty; and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot. unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.

SEC. 2. That if any person shall write, print, utter. Or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them. or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against the United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.

197 posted on 08/01/2005 8:28:23 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: pageonetoo; Alia; PhilipFreneau; Red Badger; oldglory; MinuteGal; RushCrush; blackie
Matchett-PI: "He makes people laugh at vacuous mentalities and refuses to carry the water for religious kooks and other negative, paranoid goof-balls that bombard him with emails trying to get him to talk about their pet agendas instead of only talking about what he is interested in. Isn't that the REAL reason you have a problem with him?....I thought so."

pageonetoo: "I don't need Rush to tell me what, or how, I should think!"

pageonetoo: "Am I jealous of Rush. Maybe a little .. jealous of his ability to sell himself"

pageonetoo: "I have also given up donating to the Republicans."

pageonetoo: "..into.. pot .."

pageonetoo: "I would rather smoke a joint, but it's prohibited!"

So I was right. He won't carry your "legalize pot" agenda for you. LOL

198 posted on 08/01/2005 8:29:01 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The very idea of freedom presupposes some objective moral law overarching rulers and ruled alike)
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To: GOP_Proud
I dearly love Laura Ingraham's show

How can you stand it? You must be a female. Laura's show is so dull and repetitive. And those inane "features" like the clip of the day. Awful radio.

199 posted on 08/01/2005 8:31:23 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Zacs Mom

Thank you for pointing out some possible implications of the Ames association.

Again, one would think Fitzgerald (God help us if he wasn't) was aware from the start of the New York Times piece and establishing the blowing of her cover way back when.


200 posted on 08/01/2005 8:32:53 AM PDT by cyncooper
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