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To: veronica

I understand that these feelings were quite common in 1945, or say even 1975. But today, let´s face it, Jews don´t have to fear a 2nd Holocaust with all the support they get as religious groups within various nations. So for me Israel is a state first, and not a "Jewish Vatican". I can´t see how the Vatican may have insulted a Jew who is not an Israeli.


38 posted on 08/01/2005 7:08:34 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus

Jews have learned the futility of saying "it can't happen here." The lesson of the Holocaust is that it can "happen here", unless Jews stay strong, and speak out (along with Christian brothers) when moral equivalency becomes the order of the day for other religious or secular institutions for that matter.


39 posted on 08/01/2005 7:25:34 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Michael81Dus

Israel was reestablished as the homeland for the Jews with the British Mandate. The British argued with the various nations to exclude Transjordan (Jordan) from Israel, because the British were making deals with an Arab King there. The British then prevented Jews from immigrating to Israel to the extent that they could by force while allowing huge numbers of Arabs to move to Israel. In the end, the British saw to it that all roads leading to Israel were occupied by Arab forces just before the British pullout. Then the day after the British pulled their army (which was warring against the Jews) out of Israel, the Arab nations attacked the Jews.

Although Israel was reestablished by the Mandate of nations as a "homeland" for Jews, the Jews have given Israel a democratic government with freedom of religious expression (thus, the frequent public messages of hatred against Jews by the generic Arab press there).

That bit of history is only the tip of an iceberg of millenia of distinctly Christian pogroms against Jews and attempts to exterminate them. I would be happy to give links to documents on that if you like.

Israel may not be safe for the Jews now (because of world churches and nations against them). But it is the only country that they can rely on to be free or to fight back from when their rights are violated (as is currently happening in Gaza--an action that anti-Jewish forces throughout the world will be sorry for, IMO).

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THE VATICAN AND THE STANDOFF AT THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY
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48 posted on 08/01/2005 10:47:08 AM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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