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To: JerseyRepub
To you maybe...some of us look at the Israeli situation very seriously. It isn't only the Vatican that doesn't seem to give a damn about terrorism in Israel.

Condi Rice praised Abbas for tackling terrorism, while rockets are raining down on and killing Israelis (Jews). What exactly has he done? Rather than we in the US, who should after 9/11 know better, understanding why Israel would take strong measures to combat terrorism, we praise a facilitator of that terror.

The Vatican made it clear that they do not regard terrorism against Jews in the same light as terrorism against the British or others. They equated Israel targeting those that would perpetrate terrorism against Jews, with the deliberate targeting of civilians by the Palestinians.

The fact that you see this as a dead horse, indicates that you seem to agree with that stance.

However, to this FReeper who has friends and relatives living in Israel, the Vatican pointedly ignoring terrorism in that state, is a slap in the face to all Jews. It also raises many questions of the Catholic Church, and those questions are likely to ignite a firestorm.

11 posted on 07/31/2005 10:16:03 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: sofaman

Why is this conflict between the Vatican and Israel a slap into the face of all Jews? Heck, I don´t get that.

A Jew with a US passport is an American, and not an Israeli. A Jew with an Israeli passport is an Israeli. A Jew with a German passport is a German. A Catholic with a US passport is an American, and so on...

So, why claims Israel to speak for all Jews? Because it´s a Jewish state? Puh, can´t remember when Israel allowed all Jews worldwide to vote for its state bodies. Therefore, Israel may speak for its citizens but not for all Jews. Furthermore, I wouldn´t want that the Islamic Republic of Iran claims to speak for all Muslims worldwide.

The claim for loyalty because someone is belong to a religion is a bad idea. Loyalty should be bound to the state and nation. Mixing politics with religion in general is a bad tendency and has lead to many many deads.


23 posted on 08/01/2005 1:19:21 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: sofaman

It's very troubling, and that's a euphemism.


31 posted on 08/01/2005 4:11:43 AM PDT by hershey
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