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When their bombing campaign failed, terror cell had no plan B
Times Online UK ^ | July 30, 2005 | Daniel McGrory and Sean O’Neill

Posted on 07/31/2005 5:10:33 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer

With their photographs in the papers and their instructors gone, the suspects did not know whether to stay or flee – or try again with more explosives.

THE squabbling began almost immediately after the four would-be suicide bombers bungled their “martyrdom missions” on July 21.

They had failed to emulate their “brothers” who had murdered 52 passengers on the London transport network a fortnight before because their rucksack bombs did not explode. A fifth man had simply “bottled out” and dumped his bomb.

The idea had been to die and go to paradise. There was no plan B.

These men were not even foot soldiers. They were totally expendable, as much part of the bombs as the explosives, nails and detonators they carried on their backs. The shadowy figures who had planned the attacks, offered the ideological inspiration and supplied the weaponry were long gone. The bombers had no one to turn to.

Instead, they turned on each other. They ran to their homes, the flats in North, West and South London where they had been living on benefits and dreaming of jihad.

And they began to talk to each other on their mobile phones. Two, it appears, wanted to flee. The other two wanted to try again, but whether they had access to explosives or had the expertise to assemble new devices is unclear.

Sources close to the investigation suggest that the split in the suicide cell is being reflected in the interviews now being carried out in London and Rome.

Muktar Said-Ibrahim, 27, who is alleged to have tried to blow up a No 26 bus, and Ramzi Mohammad, the alleged Oval bomber, are understood to be answering none of the questions put to them.

One of these two, who were arrested in North Kensington on Friday, had shouted to police: “I have rights.” It seems that he is exercising his right to silence.

But the other two key suspects, Yasin Hassan Omar, 24, who was arrested in Birmingham and linked to the Warren Street bomb attempt, and Hussain Osman, 27, who escaped to Italy after his alleged attack at Shepherds Bush, are co-operating to some degree with their interrogators.

Osman has attempted, in his interviews with Italian officers in the Regina Coeli prison, to blame Said-Ibrahim for recruiting him to the bomb plot.

There may be some truth in that. Said-Ibrahim, rather like Mohammad Sidique Khan in the July 7 bombing gang, could have been the only figure to have had direct contact with the planners and organisers. It is not known whether Omar alerted police to the addresses where his accomplices were hiding but the recovery of his mobile phone provided valuable leads, enabling investigators to trace numbers and locate Omar’s contacts.

Detectives were already on Osman’s trail and there is concern at Scotland Yard that he managed to slip out of Britain on a Eurostar train last Tuesday. Relatives of the father-of-three, who lived in Stockwell, South London, were detained and led police to the suspect’s brothers in Italy.

Their telephones were subjected to traces by Italian police and a picture of his movements across Europe was built up. Last Friday police picked up Osman’s brother at an internet point near Termini station and he led them to his flat.

Osman was lying on the sofa and surrendered himself quietly. According to the Italian press he has been talking freely about his role. He has told police that his real name is Hamdi Adus Isaac and that he is Ethiopian, not Somali. He obtained false Somali papers to help him to claim asylum in Britain.

According to Italian media reports, Osman said that he met Said-Ibrahim and the other cell members in a basement gym in Notting Hill, West London. They were shown DVDs of incidents in Iraq that showed women and children being killed by US forces. But Ibrahim did not propose the bombing until the day before the attempted attack.

“The idea put to us by Muktar was to frighten the British,” Osman is alleged to have said. “We wanted to react to the climate of hostility against us Muslims after the July 7 attacks. People mocked us on the street and made fun of our women. We decided to react.”

In other leaks from his interrogation, he is reported to have said that the rucksack given to him by Said-Ibrahim contained no real explosive, only fertiliser and acid designed to produce nothing more than a big bang. He said: “But something went wrong and I injured my leg because some acid leaked out while I was carrying it.”

Many of Osman’s remarks are questionable. Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, has said that the July 21 bombs would have caused carnage except for one mistake in their configuration. He emphasised that the cell was not the B team.

Osman claimed that he had had no contact with the other bombers and decided to flee after being told to do so by his partner. The idea that he made an ad hoc escape is also doubtful. Osman followed a circuitous route to get to Rome and changed his phone’s SIM card several times to try to avoid detection.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: failedattempt; koranimals; londonattacked; londonbombings; terrorist
“The idea put to us by Muktar was to frighten the British,” Osman is alleged to have said. “We wanted to react to the climate of hostility against us Muslims after the July 7 attacks. People mocked us on the street and made fun of our women. We decided to react.”

Blame it on...

1 posted on 07/31/2005 5:10:34 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Feets don't be failing ourselves now!


2 posted on 07/31/2005 5:12:38 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken (Seldom right, but never in doubt.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Contrary to "popular" belief, the WOT is taking a toll.

The terrorists are discovering that dying for their cause isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Cold feet continue to get colder by the day....


3 posted on 07/31/2005 5:17:13 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

This is sooooooooooooo Bush's Fault™


4 posted on 07/31/2005 5:19:23 PM PDT by cmsgop ( I DON'T C.A.I.R. !!!!!!!!!)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Good, they finially caught a semi squealer. One more reason to like pigs...now just how can we use the little darlings more?


5 posted on 07/31/2005 5:29:13 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Oh, sure, let's critique their plan so the next time they are better prepared/organized!

I couldn't believe, for example, that they caught the guy in Italy because they were monitoring his cell 'phone usage. You can bet that no Muslim terrorist in the future will ever use a 'phone that can be traced. The media can be helpful but why publish infformation that will be of use to the mullahs?

6 posted on 07/31/2005 5:46:32 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Interesting that Scotland Yard managed to trace Omar even though he changed the SIM card in his cell phone several times.
You are carrying a GPS when you are using a cell phone.


7 posted on 07/31/2005 5:53:39 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

"I have rights."

That is part of the problem with these types. WE give them the rights and other entitlements.

They need to know that once they opt out of society by trying to kill other members of our society they have NO MORE RIGHTS!

Once they even try they have elected, and selected.. that they no longer want to be part of society. What ever life they have left is at the whim and wish of society.

They are dead to every one. No more relatives, no more friends, just guards until they are executed... slowly and painfully. We need to televise it all.

We need to show those who would try to disrupt society what they, their families, friends, and all others who helped them can expect.

Painful, slow, lonely death.


8 posted on 07/31/2005 6:23:34 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: cmsgop
This is sooooooooooooo Bush's Fault™





9 posted on 07/31/2005 6:57:53 PM PDT by StoneGiant (Power without morality is disaster. Morality without power is useless.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

The Brits should make a very public execution of these goons as soon as they're done wringing them dry of any usable intelligence. Send a message far and wide.


10 posted on 07/31/2005 7:02:17 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

bttt


11 posted on 07/31/2005 7:04:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Keystone Kamikaze wannabes... Jihad jerks from Dorkistan.

It's hard to even hate these losers. Just take them outside and put a bullet in their heads.


12 posted on 07/31/2005 7:11:21 PM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws.... SMILE!!!)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Plan B could easily have been running a bath and dropping in a plugged in radio. Would have saved everyone a lot of trouble. But I guess its too much for these genuises to figure out a good way to off themselves. Where's Dr. Kevorkian when you need him?


13 posted on 07/31/2005 7:21:49 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Muktar Said-Ibrahim, 27, who is alleged to have tried to blow up a No 26 bus, and Ramzi Mohammad, the alleged Oval bomber, are understood to be answering none of the questions put to them.

Give me 15 minutes,duct tape, a ball peen hammer, vise grips and an old crank handle generator with some wire.

They'll start talking.

14 posted on 07/31/2005 7:26:54 PM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: rbg81

Put them in a cell with Charles Manson or BTK..


15 posted on 08/01/2005 8:51:52 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ChefKeith

3 hours after a 5 minute visit with duct tape, a squeeze bottle of sugar solution, and around 300 fire ants and he will be begging for me to kill him after telling me all of his life's secrets.


16 posted on 08/01/2005 8:56:57 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
3 hours after a 5 minute visit with duct tape, a squeeze bottle of sugar solution, and around 300 fire ants and he will be begging for me to kill him after telling me all of his life's secrets.

Actually, that's a squeeze bottle of honey...

Staked and tied naked over a hill of fire ants...

17 posted on 08/01/2005 9:05:19 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
They ran to their homes, the flats in North, West and South London where they had been living on benefits and dreaming of jihad.

Sowing the seeds of our own destruction, one taxpayer dollar (or pound, in this case) at a time...

18 posted on 08/01/2005 9:08:28 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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To: Screaming_Gerbil

No, a sugar solution liberally applied into the nasal passageways. Then the introduction of the ants followed by duct tape closing said nasal passageways.

I can be very, very cruel when I set my mind to it.


19 posted on 08/01/2005 9:24:19 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

That would be too nice for them, plus we got so many of then to weed out that that would be too time consuming;O)


20 posted on 08/01/2005 6:40:50 PM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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