Posted on 07/31/2005 7:39:57 AM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
Yep. They have licenses, plates, bank accounts and are probably registered to vote.
I've forgotten how many of the 9/11 'insurgents' had NC drivers licenses, but even that was not a wakeup call.
To that twisted logic, I say, so what? I would pay the difference.
I don't think there'd be that much difference to be paid.
I'd really like to see some documentation to back up that "$4 or $5 a pound" number that keeps getting thrown out as if it were an absolute fact. There are many other costs in producing these products that wouldn't be affected in the least if more were paid for the manual labor.
The problem is with the courts in that Illegals get almost a shrug as the judge knows that a) the person in front of him likely has a different real name and b) will never appear again - like this article documents. He'll disappear into the night reappear somewhere else with a different name and 'new' SS number and new 'legal' DL. All HIGHLY illegal and if 'we' did it we'd get 20 years, but they don't.
PC is now in 'almost' every courthouse in the USA and I've seen it. A citizen in court for speeding and no insurance say named 'Jones' will get $100 for the speeding and $500 for no insurance - YET the illegal say named 'Hernandez will get $75 plus $25 cost TOTAL for BOTH offenses. Because the judge knows anything he does is futile and whatever the fine it won't be paid. It's like fining a ghost.
And it was the same with DUI cases. Citizen 'Jones' would get hit with $750, 'Hernandez' would get the minimum allowed like $250.00! 'We the people' were having fits and it got so bad, no ridiculous, that our local paper STOPPED publishing the 'crime report' from the County Courthouse. The paper didn't want to offend the "Hispanic community".
And here's the really bad part - drunken Illegals are now reaching epidemic proportions wherever they congregate. In the Chicago metro area, a good 90% of ALL fatal auto accidents reported in the major papers, Illegals are involved. And it's almost 100% when said 'accident' is after midnight. In Chicago proper hit and runs involving deaths of pedestrians are now almost always in "Hispanic" neighborhoods.
So it's not only that Illegals are taking American jobs, they're killing Americans - and these are the so-called good "hard working immigrants", not the gang banger and criminal.
Millions of them and it's been going on for years.
"Cultural Impact"
M.A.D.D. - Fall 2001In 1993, Avila sat at the hospital bedside of her 4-year-old son, Craig Bennett Jr., as he lay in a coma because of a drunk driver. Avila met other Hispanic families who were grappling with the aftermath of a drunk driving crash... What she soon learned about the impact of drunk driving on Hispanics was disheartening.
"A lot of the crashes were caused by their own family members," Avila recalls.
"In Mexico, the culture is very much a drinking culture. After a hard day at work, it is normal to end the workday by drinking beer. At social events - celebrations, spending time with family, visiting friends - it is commonplace to drink, for the men in particular. And drinking alcohol starts early for male Hispanics because as early as age 12, drinking alcohol is seen as a "rite of passage" to becoming a man.
According to research compiled by Dr. Catherine Clark of the Alcohol Policy Group in Berkeley, Calif., Hispanic drivers are more likely than Anglo drivers to consume more alcohol more frequently and have been shown to be more likely than Anglos to drive with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) level over .05 percent.
The overall death rate due to motor vehicle crashes is higher among Hispanics than it is among Anglos or African Americans. And, Hispanic male teens are twice as likely as Anglo male teens to die in a car crash.
U.S. Census figures show the Hispanic/Latino population is the youngest and fastest-growing segment in America. This rapid growth, combined with a higher tendency to drive after drinking or ride with an impaired driver, is a recipe for death.
I doubt it. And most people in her district feel the same way that I do. I can safely guarantee you that having had rather long talks with many of them over the last couple of weeks.
And as for being an "anti-illegal immigration zealot", guilty as charged, criminal lover. You think illegal immigration is no big deal? Then count yourself with the criminals of Mexico and the nightmare known as Latin America.
Actually, I just pulled the $4 out of my hat, for illustration purposes.
The point is that we are paying, in many ways, for these people to be here. And any impression that some peckerhead in gov or industry has that we are economically netting from them is completely illusionary.
For every dollar a consumer saves on produce, he pays several times that in taxes for societal costs directly resulting from illegals. And again, that's not including the human toll from crime. It's just that when cost is filtered through government, Americans are so ignorant, they don't know it.
Did I say that? Believing this about everyone who doesn't totally agree with you is what make you a zealot...the dangerous kind.
Actually, the illegal immigrant apologists and sympathizers use that number (and higher) to justify letting the illegals come in. I've never believed it for a minute and have yet to see any study that supports it.
I agree, there are many other costs, both monetary and human, that people are ignoring. These costs dwarf any potential increased produce costs.
The last time I was in Juarez, I bought a beer from a vending machine accessible by anybody.
ol' hoghead
In order to be recertified as a locomotive engineer, I had to sign a letter allowing my employer to check my driving record maintained by the feds.
ol' hoghead
Oh yeah. Right. Dangerous. Oh, right.
Tens of millions of people cross into the United States from countries that have been enemy nations for oh, you know, centuries....but it's no big deal, right?
Entire cities in the United States are now occupied and controlled by people loyal to a foreign and enemy nation, speak a foreign language, and it is not safe for an American to walk those streets.
But I'm the "zealot", and you of course are an enlightened free thinker, worrying about important things like...the relative cost of commodity fruit.
Give me a break, kid. You're lost.
It seems like everybody has a database these days.
The National Driver Registry - How to get information about your record on this national database, used by states to determine a person's driving record in other states.
www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/perform/driver/
National Driving History Search - Another private company which provides searches of driving records by state; the price depends upon the state.
www.dmv.org/driving-record.php
You are repeating yourself. I never said that, but if you want to fight a strawman, feel free.
bttt
Yet immigration officials *claim* they run back round checks on the thousands of illegals they "Catch & Release" daily.
About 27 percent of drunken driving charges against Hispanics are dismissed in North Carolina because the suspects don't show up for court, an Observer study found.
So if you want your DWI *dismissed* in NC, all you have to do is "skip court". ??? Does this work for all, or only hispanic's ???
That's more than four times higher than in cases involving black and white defendants.
Looks like "catch & release" applies IN country too, *if* your hispanic.
I don't think its that at all. With the Dems history of giving away the store, do you think they would have been better on this issue? Better to the point that we could overlook all the other crap that they don't have a clue about?
Party loyalty or not, I voted for GWB because he is about 100 times the leader than Jean Francois or AlGore would have been.
Having said that, the immigration problem is absolutely something that has to be dealt with. I'm getting impatient about it too, but I'm still not going to question everybody that voted for GWB over french boy, or the guy who invented the Internet.
Hmmmm, now that is really strange. I would think missing a court appearance would result in a default judgment or bench warrant.
WTF!!??
Not only do they sneak into this country illegally, get illegal jobs, buy illegal IDs and fraudulently get NC drivers licenses but when somehow caught and then released nobody cares if they don't show up in court. They don't even bother putting a warrant out for their arrest! And even when they do have a warrant out, they seldom bother to serve it (I personally know of a case like this, and it simply it drives me into a rage every time I think about it - and the cops know where this guy lives)
Why should anybody in North Carolina have any respect for our laws and courts?
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