CULTURE OF DEATH BUILDS A BRIDGE TO "THE ISLAND" (Don Feder On 21st Century Bioethics Alert)

Cold Steel Caucus Report ^ | 07/28/05 | Don Feder

[goldstategop]

Every one has heard of H.G Well's famous novel, The Island Of Dr. Moreau in which the mad scientist's namesake experiments foreshadowed the worst horrors of the 20th Century. We're barely a generation removed from Auschwitz and yet the same specter hangs over us like a Sword Of Damocles - that human life is expendable or least that some people lack sentience. We've seen that kind of reasoning in the Terri Schiavo saga. Some people can't communicate and since they look like inert vegetables, its easier to justify their murder. Welcome to the brave new world of 21st Century bioethics. And as Don Feder observes, thanks to Michael Bay's new movie, "The Institute", our new world of butchering embryos so others can stay alive, human cloning for spare parts and the killing of the undesirable may be much closer than your cineplex screens. (Its a great reason to see Michael Bay's newest flick and if you liked the heroic ending to Armageedon you'll appreciate this no holds barred look at our warped culture of death.) Its part of the New Order the Left is busy constructing. After all, if our values are subjective, there's no reason to treat all human life as a sacred gift of God.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Sun]

FYI

[Boazo]

Pinch me,I must be dreaming.

[RobbyS]

Another notion I find interesting is that memories might literally become part of the person, are encrypted in his/her dna or "form" in some unknown way.

[concerned about politics]

My daughter referred to this movie as "futuristic". She's a smart girl.
Her friends didn't seem to get the Frankenstein message, but they're public school kids who have been programed for pro-death. It came so natural to them, they were bored by it. My daughter said the story went right over their heads. They thought nothing of cloning for body parts. It didn't even phase them.
The public school sends out thousands of these pro-death kids each year.

[concerned about politics]

Another notion I find interesting is that memories might literally become part of the person, are encrypted in his/her dna or "form" in some unknown way.

I watched a special on that once. Those who received body parts from others seemed to have been given part of the donors soul. The memories seem to be not only located in the brain, but in every cell nucleus in the body as well. It's like the souls merge. Creepy!

[TET1968]

Last week I posted a reply on another thread in which I wrote the reason the MSM was ignoring or trashing this film was because it is a very anti-cloning,anti-stem cell, anti-abortion,anti- organ harvesting film.

A.I. did not have the courage to stray from the metaphors,
Blade Runner and others had to have androids or Robots as the central characters.

The island, by being honest, informs you about where we are and where we are headed. Very scary...and very sad.

[sayfer bullets]

[The Duke]

"The Matrix" meets "Capricorn One".

[AirBorn]

1) 70% of " scientists /doctors are either atheists or scientologists-they do NOT believe in " God " and any other " Morale hang-ups "--sounds like Germany 1940's? Okay! so that might be too high a number!---
This Percentage might be high--I only remember it because when I heard it I was like, ' NOOO! you HAVE to be kidding!!"--But I know it IS a very high number!

2) The " it was done THEN ; it will be done AGAIN!," and there is nothing NEW under the sun " statements have merrit by the way!--anything and everything WILL be tried--it's the matrimatrix calculations of probabiltiy--if anyone thought they could get away with anything--ANYONE can justify ANYTHING!!--meaning people would /will kill people for cloning and money sometime in the future if if NO other reason other than they want to see if they can do it! Look at the liberals??

3) Companies still sell what?? that kills you?? what??anyone?? Bueller?? Bueller?? Cigarettes, Booze, drugs prescription or not!

HOW to tell if SOMETHING is seriously wrong or LIFE THREATENING??---- see if that company HAS TO PAY OFF Senators / Congressman/woman so the COMPANY being debated can stay in business or get write offs or out of law suits!--

4) I believe in capitalism and I hate ( even though I buy the $280.00 Generic instead of the $600.00 PER MONTH BRAND name I use!!) that generics can rip off another's hard work and investments and testings--- but BODY PARTS selling and skin/organ/transplant is VERY VERY BIG BUSINESS!! Want to pay for a generic heart?? Those with $$$ won't want too!

When money talks!

So put NO belief in the sanctity of LIFE and CREATION!!

with GREEDY people and then POLITICIANS!!

For some reason I never do think they have MY GOOD INTENTIONS at heart!!


Push THIS through??--libbies will REVERSE-ENGINEER the ABORTION argument right off the law books REALLY for good then!

And who would stand in the way ( was this is the movie??:)
NINE PEOPLE DRESSED IN BLACK ROBES!!????--Like THEY have been doing SO GREAT the last few times in their chambers!!


Chris

If I had a clone he'd kill himself when he woke up anyhow!! --unless they make him EXACTLY with the same amount diseases , heart aches, and doses of the DRUGS I have to take--then he'd kill ME first out of pity ,THEN himself!

[Frank_2001]

I love it when the MSM has fits like that; this movie may actually wind up making some money at the box office, and Scarlett Johansson is hot enough to melt diamonds anyhow, so that won't hurt either;)

[1stFreedom]

Fish, Plankton, nutrition from the sea""

Something like that..

[Clock King]

I noticed the MSM first praised this movie, then all the negative reviews came out as soon as it hit the theaters. Shows just where most "critics" sympathies lie. One issue, on your point #1, "70%...". That is WAY too high. Most of the great scientists of the world were very devout believers: Newton, Da Vinci, Einstein... I know for my own beliefs that as one studies science more and more, and gets very deep into it, one can't help but be awestruck at the sheer breadth and majesty of it all. Surely, a Higher Power is orchastrating things beyond our comprehension. And this is with extremely limited knowledge we do have.

[RazorGhost]

Tag for later!

[glorgau]

Watching the movie, I was struck by the resemblence to the culture of California. It was uncanny.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Frankenstein medicine... an ecological disaster in the making... where are the environmentalists?

[luckystarmom]

I don't buy it.

I have clones (identical twins).

They are very different. The only way they share memories is because they live together.

[solitas]

'the island' is a crappy remake of the crappy "Parts: the Clonus Horror" from 1979 (you may have seen it on MST3K - episode 811).

[AliVeritas]

BTTT
God Bless you Gold
Pro-Life PING

[AliVeritas]

Oh...is it Benedict XVI instead of Rove now? Cool.
Trust me, they did it by mistake.
Must have driven by a church inadverently and something stuck.