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To: Aetius
You've been misinformed.

The socialist gun grabbers & the 'states righters', as in the post above, --- are among those that are spinning that the USSC has the power to "tell us what the Second Amendment means". -- This is simply not true, - and I look forward to the day they try to do so.

-- The Constitution is clear on this issue, and the people would immediately make that fact clear to the Court, and to any officials stupid enough to try to enforce a prohibitive infringement.

I am doubtful that the American people would rise up raise hell if the Sup Court definitively gutted the Second Amendment and rendered it virtually meaningless.

Enough of them would. -- Rest assured, just a million or so determined patriots using civil disobedience techniques could disrupt the system. I suspect that millions more would join such a fight once it started.

I even fear that such a decision would, the longer it stands, serve to push public opinion towards the garbage collective right view. It has happened with abortion and Roe; it too was a radical decision and outrageous usurpation of power by the Sup Court, yet today most people voice what is at least marginal support for the decision

'Collective rightists' are groups [regardless of political orientation] pushing for prohibitive laws over an individuals rights. -- And as you say, most people support individual rights.

(though yes, I would fully agree with the assertion that this due mostly to the lies and distortions of the Left and mainstream media).

Yes, the Left and mainstream media support Roe as an individual right, while they use lies and distort gun issues/rights as 'collective'. This error of logic is typical of socialists.

So the fact that the Sup Court does not legitimately hold the power it has given to itself if meaningless so long as the rest of the govt and nation dutifully obey all of its orders as though they were the word of God.

The Court has no real power to enforce their opinions. Congress & the Executive hold those powers only with the consent of the governed.
Even the three branches in collusion could not "gut" the Second Amendment, and make it stick.

62 posted on 08/01/2005 10:03:45 AM PDT by musanon
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To: musanon

Listen, I agree with you for the most part. Hamilton himself (a supporter of judicial review, though that doesn't mean he would support the extremes it has been taken to) said that the Court was tempered by its complete lack of enforcement power.

But my point is that the reality today is one of Judicial Supremacy. It doesn't really matter that is a corrupt situation, without legitimacy, because there is no challenge to it. What does their lack of enforcement power matter when the other two branches always dutifully obey and enforce the decisions. In such a situation where the other two supposedly coequal branches are subservient, then the Sup Court does in effect have enforcement power.

I don't like it one bit. I would actually very much like to see a showdown between Congress/President and the Supreme Court, but seeing as how the former don't hesitate to bend over and take the latest nonsense emanating from the latter, then I just don't see it happening.

My point is that I am very skeptical of any foreseeable uprising against the Court. As time goes by, Judicial Supremacy gets further and further entrenced, not just in law schools and Washington DC, but in the mind of the public.

I do, however, hope that I am wrong.


63 posted on 08/01/2005 4:57:06 PM PDT by Aetius
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