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To: motzman
If you think Rudy will enact executive orders outlawing or restricting gun access you are stretching. Rudy lived with a gay man for a while, and has had marital problems? Grow up. Nobody's personal life is perfect, and we're not talking about Bill Clinton here. If that bothers you so much, vote for some preacher who hasn't been caught being human yet. Plus, Rudy is much more "conservative" (on issues that really matter) than most realize.

IOW, social conservative issues "don't really matter." I beg to differ. This stuff may not be important anymore where you live, but it is still very important where I live. It's difficult enough to rear children in a traditional family setting while they are subjected to corrosive Hollywood and MTV influences that we can do little to control. But we get it done today, in part, because we can point to President Bush, the most visible public leader in the United States, as a father and husband whose loyalty to his wife is sterling and unquestioned. His example reinforces the example we try to set in our own families.

Similarly, even though Ronald Reagan's first marriage ended in divorce, he always conveyed the impression that fidelity in marriage and loyalty to family were not disposable commodities. One sensed that Reagan was truly heartbroken that his first marriage failed.

I like Giuliani in many ways, but the sense he conveys on social conservative issues is "Whatever. Yawn."

I cannot support such a candidate for President. I might be able to support him if he could honestly and forthrightly recognize social conservative values as being vitally important and preferable to social liberalism even if he has been unable to live up to socially conservative standards personally. But I don't think he believes that. I think he believes social conservatism is a joke, neanderthal, and unhip.

Too bad. He coulda been a contender.

117 posted on 07/30/2005 9:45:43 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
I respect your opinion. "Social Issues" start locally, and grow into consensus. A President should not "ram" them down the throat of the people whether we agree or not.

Hollywood and the MTV cabal are losing their influence quickly, because of community-based outrage, not government edict. And this will continue, and the void will be filled by traditional-values oriented programming. Technology is bypassing the traditional media. But again, it's not the President's job to do that.

I think he believes social conservatism is a joke, neanderthal, and unhip.

I've read that Rudy has been packing them in at appearances outside the beltway. The man has a following, and he's very electable, which is very important.

He's the guy I want facing down Al Queda, France, Russia, and the rest.

Nobody's going to light your fire on every issue---but Rudy's the best at putting out fires and preventing them from happening.
128 posted on 07/30/2005 9:55:20 AM PDT by motzman (Verizon, the Hitler of phone companies)
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