With Gipper's game plan, Rudy can win it all

Chi Sun Times ^ | July 30, 2005 | THOMAS ROESER

[cloud8]

> I don't see Giuliani leading a national gun control crusade -- he has real achievements he can stand on rather than hiding behind gun control.

I don't either. The national priority is fighting terrorism. If that is Rudy's priority also, then I am behind him 100%

[comebacknewt]

Rudy aside, I don't see any current candidate that will be able to "unite" us.

Jeb Bush comes the closest, and if Hillary! is the Rats' choice, it offsets the "dynasty" argument.

I know he keeps saying he isn't running, but I'm hoping he changes his mind before '08.

[randog]

I don't think you can fault Rudy for his divorces any more than you can fault Reagan for his rotten kids.

[sarasotarepublican]

Even if not, she takes Ohio, keeps what the nobody Kerry won, and there she is.

Can't argue with that. I think Rudy would do much better in those boarder line states that Kerry won. It's a toss up. The big fear is that Conservative will stay home as the did with Bob Dole. But then, Rudy, is no Bob Dole. He is tough. Hillary would never be Senator of New York today, had he not dropped out. What a shame.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

Why then, don't we just erase the word "inalienable" from the books, forget all about being a republic, and just descend to the level of a stinking democracy?

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

I don't think you can fault Rudy for his divorces any more than you can fault Reagan for his rotten kids.

I don't claim to have researched the issue of Rudy's divorces - plural BTW - but I'm clear that RR only had one, initiated by Jane Wyman.

It does bear noting, however, that Rudy achieved prominence as a crusading US Attorney who made high-profile, frog-walk arrests of businessmen whom he in some cases later failed to convict. But it might take someone like that to beat Senator Rodham.

[randog]

But it might take someone like that to beat Senator Rodham.

Yup. I'd like to vote for someone that had identical political views to mine, but then I'd have to run for POTUS, and we all know how that election would turn out.

[Coldwater Creek]

I could have done everything on 9/11 that Rudy did and have done it better! I could have baked tons of Chocklate Chip Cookies for the workers while taking care of the city business.

[Dscott_FR]

As far as Giuliani or any other pro-abortion candidate goes, and I'm sure he would understand this statement even though he does not agree with it....I WILL NOT VOTE FOR TERRORISTS (ABORTIONISTS) OR THOSE WHO SUPPORT TERRORISM (PRO-ABORTION POLITICIANS)!!!

Can anyone deny that abortion is absolutely terrorism to the baby??!

[Sentis]

Well aside from your paranoid delusions the fact is the rest of us Republicans need to win the election and as much as we love Bush he is not nor would ever be my first choice, but he did win and so i stand behind him. There are better Republicans than Guliani there are much better Reopublicans than Bush but I want to win and destroy the Democrats once and for all and by sliding Guliani in there and winning again we will spilt the democrats in two. You can stick to pure conservative candidates and lose the next election allowing the Democrats to regroup and survive or crush them in this country and force them into several smaller parties.

[HitmanLV]

Millions of people will deny it, and you won't convince them by calling them names.

[Coldwater Creek]

Woudl someone please tell me what the difference is between civil unions and gay marriage. NONE!!!!!!!

[Dscott_FR]

Don't be so sensitive! Good grief.

[NeoCaveman]

I believe a Guliani/Rice ticket would be unbeatable and would so hurt the demonrats that they may even cease to exist as a party. A Guliani/Rice ticket would give Republicans the Catholic vote, The New York vote, and the Black vote. It would be a landslide not seen since Reagan.

While I think Guliani would have the same Catholic problem as Kerry, especially with Benedict XVI, I'd rather speculate on Rudy/Rice. My take is that IF Guliani is on top of the ticket, it will need to be balanced by a real social conservative, most likely Sam Brownback.

Speaking strategically I think you could have Rudy or Rice on a ticket but not both, and either would be better on the bottom of the ticket than the top.

[HitmanLV]

I'm not that sensitive, but I do know that calling people terrorists over an abortion won't win them over to our side.

[Sentis]

The way American politics works is that a Southern Democrat on the top of the ticket with a Liberal Northerner at the bottom will always beat a Conservative Republican Regardless of his region at the top of the Ticket. In the next election if the Democrats are smart they will drop Hillery and go with the Southern Democrat. If that happens the only way for the Republicans to win is to win California or New York. Guliani is our best hope for taking New York as New Yorkers being the egotistical idiots they are will cling to their own above their party loyalty. American Catholics are actually a somewhat liberal lot and will go with Guliani as they don't see him as a threat regardless of the Pope. That slight increase in Votes will also push PA into the Republican camp insuring the 2008 elections for the Republicans. We got to play this smart if we want to cripple the Democrats.

[Coldwater Creek]

It is going to be a long three years.!!!!!!!!

[motzman]

There is no candidate that has a proven record of leadership, effectiveness, and results, (like Rudy) who will ever satisfy Johnny B-Good and The One Notes.

As a Jersey Guy that has worked on and off in NYC since 1993, I can tell you I love Rudy. I don't agree with all his positions (his "take your car if you're accused of drunk driving" for example) but the man has proven himself an extremely capable administrator and executive.

More importantly, he has charisma and passion.

I remember back in the General Dinkins bad old days, when I, one of the world's whitest men, had to cover a sales territory from Manhattan to the crappiest areas of Brooklyn and da Bronx. I was a target. Every day, I was accosted by squeegee men, bums, and assorted lowlifes; I had to decide which accounts to see in person vs. via phone based on "Am I risking my life going there?"

Another sales rep I knew was mugged, beaten, and left for dead in the trunk of his car in the Bronx one day---he survived, but it could have easily been me.

Then Rudy came in. The transformation was obvious and astonishingly speedy. Within a few months, the fear started to lift, and just making a living without risking your life became possible again. By 1996, many of us had forgotten how bad it used to be.

Rudy is a guy who focuses on the big issues of daily life, the main one being security. This is what we need for now and the forseeable future. Many may disagree on some of his "social" positions, but they really aren't that important in the scope of what a President is charged to do.

Want abortion outlawed? Call your Congresscritter or Senator. Worried about gun rights? If you think Rudy will enact executive orders outlawing or restricting gun access you are stretching. Rudy lived with a gay man for a while, and has had marital problems? Grow up. Nobody's personal life is perfect, and we're not talking about Bill Clinton here. If that bothers you so much, vote for some preacher who hasn't been caught being human yet. Plus, Rudy is much more "conservative" (on issues that really matter) than most realize.

May only real reservation about Rudy is actually his association with Bernie the K and the North Jersey police-crime syndicate. I really want to know the whole scoop before I'm 100% in the Rudy camp.

But for now, I'd like to see a Rudy/Rice ticket in 08. No-nonsense tough leadership for America. Plus, Rudy would destroy Hillary---real accomplishment vs. well, nothing. A Rudy/Rice combo would have the potential for a landslide victory.

Some have argued that Rudy should run for Senate, which I believe would be a shameful waste of the man's talent. Governors make the best presidents, and Mayor of NYC is pretty much the equivalent of being a Governor. Rudy should never be 1 of 100.

FWIW....

[FastCoyote]

"Since Frist went to the dark side on stem cell research, it's wide open again. I was putting money on Frist to take it. Putting money on Allen now. "

Who else but Allen? Or some say Pence, but he's even more obscure. Certainly not Gingrich. A lot of these guys have a blind spot when trying to "read" what the right feels, a blindspot that's as big as the Dems have. I just don't think we a ready to put up with the flaws that so often have been shoved down our throats. For example, GW on immigration, CFR and pills for seniors - that's all stuff that just shouldn't happen from a conservative.

[Dscott_FR]

Whew! I'm not talking about winning them over to our side. I'm talking about why I can't vote for the likes of Giuliani, Pataki, Hillary, etc.
Yeah right..we'll win them over and then we'll vote for them for President! Gimme a break. You're thinking like Hillary Clinton.