Got the Bastards! (Caught Like Rats in a Trap)

If it came down to choosing between your posts and that of the one overusing the word ignorant I know which side of the issue I stand on. Been my contention all along that I want to see renunciation of the type you have suggested before I'll believe a word, and even then caution should be exercised. The enemy has identified themselves and we are fools to play pc games at our own expense.

Why should I be willing to grant unlimited access to my country even for those who may be citizens, who have a belief contrary to everything my forefathers believed when they were drawn to this country in 1845, and earlier. The koran does not usurp the Constitution of the United States of America.

You guys are spending WAY too much money.

Use a crane with a bunge cord, like they do at a carnival. Place it over a hog pen so he hangs a foot or so above the ground and let the pigs at him.

It would take several hours, but hey, we've got the time.............

The Jews of WW2 did NOTHING to deserve annihilation. The Muslims of today( and throughout history) are doing PLENTY!

The simple fact is, you are recommending genocide. Genocide is always wrong. Genocide is the murder of men, women, and children. You have determined, through an extremely uninformed point of view, that all Muslims deserve to be exterminated. I have absolutely no doubt that the Germans used the same ignorant argument about the Jews as you are using about the Muslims. They were as convinced as you were that exterminating an entire race was justified.

Do you recognize the irony of your comments about how horrible it is that muslim women are treated like property. For God's sake, you want to kill muslim women. I mean, really, the logic is truly baffling. I am going to presume then that you think the war in Afghanistan was wrong as was the war in Iraq. Instead of freeing millions of muslims as we swept across those two countries we should have just rounded them all up and exterminated them. Ditto Kuwait when we liberated it in 91? Is that what you are suggesting? If you are going to recommend genocide at least be honest enough to spell out how we will do it. Will we round them up, gas them, nuke them, poison them... what?

You are SERIOUSLY hung up on the word 'genocide'. Did I ever use it? It was YOUR comparison to the Jews that leads you to that-yet is is 'YOUR JEWS=Muslims' who have at the core of their cult the GENOCIDE of not just ONE group who believes in a religion they will not tolerate- but the death of ANY and ALL who will not submit to Islam.
But you won't debate that, will you? Because you cannot.
WE ARE THE JEWS! I'll keep saying it. ISLAM is Nazism.
It is also odd that you think it bad that I -and millions of others- want to preserve OUR modern culture and OUR religions-but not that Muslims are terrorizing the world for theirs!
Now that we have been ATTACKED and openly threatened by a cult that ADMITS it wants all to obey it, we are somehow goose-stepping Nazis? Are Muslims then just as bad for wanting the world to submit and become Islamic? Seems to me it's THEIR side that is going about all the bloodshed in accomplishing that. I take it you discount their historical penchant for attacking other religions too?
You see the same news I do. You read the posts here on FR- the reports of Islamic barbarity, yet your kneejerk reaction is to defend Islam. Did you watch the beheadings and think- " Just like the Jews !"?

The 'good Muslims' you worry so much about have done WHAT to earn that appellation? You haven't answered. Or is it that you consider them good only because they haven't done anything bad? By that logic, Mohammed Atta and his bunch were 'good Muslims'--UNTIL they got on those planes! Good is something you DO- not something you are because you haven't done evil. Allowing evil to be done in your name is the same as doing it yourself.

I told you I would have no problem with Muslims ( those 'good ones' you and others insist are the majority) if they will RENOUNCE the part of Islam that is barbaric and threatening. They can spend their entire lives with their asses in the air, dressed in rags and yodeling to Lucifer! I would consider them exceedingly backward and ignorant, but not threatening- just as most Americans are not threatened by other religions that do not DEMAND the elimination of all other religions.
Islam- the blood and death cult that has poisoned the world for centuries MUST go. Muslims must either reform their 'religion'- eliminating the evil text that the 'bad Muslims' use to justify terrorism- or they will all be judged by the entire book that they revere.
Wouldn't it be simple and so much safer for the 'good' Muslims if they did that? Just all met in some big conclave and decided to remove from the Koran that which the terrorists are using to 'defile' it? It would modernize their religion and isolate the 'bad Muslims'. If I were faced with death and my life was dependent on removing, from a book I consider holy ,the BAD stuff I DON'T believe in, millions of shredders would be at work.
You keep saying I am uninformed. I am VERY informed, I just do not form the same opinion you do based on that information. You have had NOT ONE word bad to say about Islam- not the way it treats women, not the fact that it demands all submit to it or die, not the fact that it hates Jews. What do you value so much about Islam?
Why do you insist on comparing Muslims to Jews of WW2 when history does not show ANY evidence of Jewish people terrorizing Europe pre WW2?
Why do you insist on equating what HAPPENED to INNOCENT Jews because of what their religon did NOT encourage, to Muslims who dance in the streets when terrorists do what their 'religion' DOES encourage?
WE are the foolish, trusting, Jews who- God Bless their souls- didn't believe Nazis' really meant to destroy them even as they were going to the 'showers'. The 'good Muslims' of today are just like the 'good' Germans my father helped drag into Nordhausen to WITNESS what had been done in their name! What they KNEW was being done in their name, and what they privately applauded- just as the 'good Muslims' would applaud an Islamic world if their 'soldiers' bring it about through terrorism.
You see a different history than I. Perhaps because you read it and are filtering it through PC,fear, or some personal affinity for Islam, I don't know. But I have a father who LIVED that history- and the comparisons HE sees are mine- not yours.
If Muslims are annihliated wholesale on this planet, by governmental decree, or by people rising up to purge them from their societies- it will be because of what Islam teaches and they insist on defending. Renunciation can save their lives. A militant, brutal belief system from the 7th century or your life and your childrens' lives- that will be their decision. That is the choice Islam is giving the world- submit OUR lives and children or die. Personally, I don't think Iraq, Iran, Kuwait or any other Muslim country is worth ONE American life. The 'freedom' our soldiers are dying to give them will be used to elect other Saddams, impose Sharia law, etc. Free barbarians are still barbarians.

WE didn't draw that line- ISLAM did. We, in this country, have had religions co-existing peacefully for hundreds of years-because their dogma allows it. They may all think theirs is the right and only way to God, but only ONE 'religion' on this planet right now is willing to enforce that through terror and death- and that is Islam.
It is treated differently because it IS different.
Islam- as an idea- MUST die. It is not designed to co-exist equally with any other belief system- it must dominate. So Islam, the cult, dies, or every other religion and our Constitution and modern civilization as we know it, dies.
The PEOPLE don't have to die for the idea of their cult, not if they love their lives and their families more.
If I am evil for being willing to kill to defend freedom of other religions and continuation of our way of life- then why aren't the Muslims evil for wanting theirs to rule the world and for FORCING the confrontation?
What is is about Islam that you feel so protective of it?

Thank you!
Renunciation can save MILLIONS of Muslim lives, eliminate their fear of retaliation and give us millions to help find the 'bad' Muslims. Seems logical if you don't believe in the brutal parts of the Koran anyway, right? How can they say they don't believe in those terrible passages, but still consider them 'holy' and binding?
The fact that too many refuse to face is we have a large group in this country whose goal is to make Islam the RULING FORCE here. Buddhists don't hold up the Upanishads and say it must dominate the world. Jews don't hold up the Torah and say submit or die. Christians certainly do not hear 'kill in the name of Jesus' from pulpits.
Denial and PC will be the death of modern civilization, and people like Casloy evidently think that's ok.
Look- I don't care if Muslims want to worship Lucifer, brutalize their women or bomb their kids- as long as they do it in the desert hellholes they belong in and do not infect the rest of the world. Contain'em in the Mid-East and let them all go at each other- they're suicidal anyway.
I simply refuse to let them take MY culture, MY family and MY country with them. I have NO problem whatever being UNfair and alive.

Give them to me. I'll make them talk. You just pump them with heroin and cigarettes. After a while, you withhold the heroin and cigarettes in exchange for USEFUL info. If the info checks out, they get another hit/pack. If one guy holds out, you hack him up in front of his buddies and make them feed his parts to the dogs.

TV coverage would definately be cheaper with your method.

I thought it was ...hogs, not dogs.

The only unfair would be to the next generation upon which we would be placing the burden of what we wouldn't or couldn't do. Best to do our duty and not allow the inevitable to take place as it surely will if we take the PC approach.

I like that! Allahu fubar!