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1 posted on 07/29/2005 8:51:35 PM PDT by Lorianne
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Another example of the rights belonging to the Mom, the responsibilities belonging to the Dad way of thinking.

When will people wake up and return to traditional values that work?


49 posted on 07/30/2005 4:39:41 AM PDT by XEHRpa
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Critics say mother and baby would suffer under Shields' proposal because some women would give up Medicaid and forgo prenatal care rather than cooperate in efforts to bill the father for hospital costs.

And the downside to that is...?

Beggars not only can't be choosers, but even letting them think that they can make the rules adds insult to injury.

Reward pathological behavior, and the only certain thing is you'll get more of it.

54 posted on 07/30/2005 8:53:16 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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Some Republican legislators want to charge unwed fathers thousands of dollars for hospital birth costs incurred by low-income mothers on Medicaid.

Ridiculous.  For so many reasons.

65 posted on 07/30/2005 9:41:33 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Every evil which liberals imagine Judaism and Christianity to be, islam is.)
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Some want unwed dads to pick up Medicaid’s birth costs

Would disproportionately affect poor black males (70+% illegit birth rates), ergo it is racist to even suggest it.

70 posted on 07/30/2005 12:38:21 PM PDT by Teacher317
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Critics say mother and baby would suffer under Shields' proposal because some women would give up Medicaid and forgo prenatal care rather than cooperate in efforts to bill the father for hospital costs.

So the taxpayer's are FORCED to pay for it when the "mothers" refuse?! When someone accepts a handout the recipient isn't usually the person who makes the rules. ONLY IN GOVERNMENT IS THAT TRUE!

82 posted on 07/30/2005 10:41:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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In polygamous societies they laugh at the taxpayers. Ask them they will tell you that "bleeding the beast" is a good thing becuase we deserve it and the government is evil.

They are taught to defraud the government and the welfare system was sent to them by God to help them live their lifestyle.

That polygamous dude Tom Green didn't even have a job. He made the women work selling magazines, take care of the gazillion kids and household chores while he sat around doing nothing. The only thing he did was have sex and eat.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. I just read recently that men without any children are on welfare. I almost fell off my chair. I thought it was only for single moms in deep trouble.


Time to start taking money out of work checks from the women and the men for any government handouts or medical debts. Welfare should be only 1 year limit emergency loan which should be paid back when they get a job. A work program of hard to fill jobs should be made available.


Eliminate food stamps entirely make the welfare people go to distribution centers to get extremely generic goverment discount bulk food to keep the kids from going hungry. They should not get to pick out whatever they want from the local grocery store with those little cards. Those big blocks of nasty tasting government bulk food would make things very unpleasant. After some time they'll realize that cutting coupons takes more work but is the more pleasant option.


83 posted on 07/30/2005 11:12:41 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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You want poppa to pony up..I got no problem with it, but make sure mommy does too.... takes two to tango.


89 posted on 08/04/2005 10:00:36 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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"In reality, there are a lot of fathers that just don't have the income,"

Then they should keep their penises to themselves until they do!

101 posted on 08/08/2005 12:14:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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There is a legal reason for not starting support until after the birth.

If you can charge support before the birth then the man has "standing".

Standing for medical information. Standing to know about an abortion. Standing to perhaps oppose an abortion.

Perhaps even when tech allows, standing for pre-birth custody.


109 posted on 08/08/2005 12:24:22 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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How about having the unwed man and woman pay Medicaid. Those gals didn't get pregnant by themselves.
115 posted on 08/08/2005 1:02:25 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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