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Mixed Feelings On Extended Daylight-Saving Time
Associated Press ^ | Jul 29, 2005 3:24 pm US/Pacific

Posted on 07/29/2005 3:57:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) As Congress voted to extend daylight-saving time, some parents whose children wait for school buses in the morning darkness doubted whether an extra month of daylight is such a bright idea.

"I don't think that it's safe," said Nikki McIntosh of Little Rock, whose children Myah, 12, and Alex, 11, occasionally ride a bus to school.

Congress on Friday gave final approval to an energy bill that includes a four-week expansion of daylight-saving time in an effort to save energy. If President Bush signs the bill, most Americans would see their clocks "spring forward" the second Sunday of March and "fall back" the first Sunday of November, beginning in 2007.

Daylight-saving time now starts on the first Sunday of April and ends the last Sunday of October.

According to Congress' thinking, if Americans can wait an hour to turn on their lights at night, the nation should be able to conserve at least some energy.

"It won't be a huge savings, but it'll offset fuel costs. Every little bit helps," said Sue Clothier, 40, of Gansevoort, N.Y.

The extra hours will also give her more time to garden and spend outdoors with her three dogs, she said. "It's like extending the summer for four weeks," she said.

But the tradeoff for parents with school-age children is an extra 20 weekdays of sending pupils off to class in the dark and having them stay up later at night.

Lynnette Ryan of Colorado Springs, Colo., is already anticipating the battles with her children, now aged 1 and 5.

"It's going to be hard on them because they'll be going to day care in the dark. Then they come home, and it's going to be light in the evening -- and they're not going to want to go to bed," said Ryan, visiting her mother Friday in Morgantown, W.Va.

The change, though, would be beneficial for some farmers who would get an extra hour of daylight for a longer portion of the year.

Al Davis, who raises cattle in southwestern Cherry County, Neb., said the new daylight-saving plan will be helpful for his operation on the eastern side of the Mountain time zone.

"It gets dark here at 4 p.m. on the darkest day of the year," Davis said. "So this will be advantageous to us."

Jan Koch, who with her husband milks 250 cows and farms 500 acres near De Forest in southern Wisconsin, was mostly disgusted with Congress, but not for any effect the change would have on her farm.

"If that is the best Congress can come up with for an energy idea, we are in trouble," she said. "They should be able to come up with something better than that to save energy."

Matt Hand, 29, of Manhattan, said that even a few minutes more of sunshine would be welcomed in the fields where he sometimes plays frisbee after work -- even in the chill of autumn.

"It's not the temperature that stops us. It's when you can't see anymore," he said, resting by the edge of Central Park with his bicycle.

Others though, said the change would just add to the list of things to worry about.

"Why screw with my calendar year? I have such a busy life," said Jesse Jette of Albany, N.Y. "This is just one more thing to remember."


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To: Betis70

:-). I don't know, haven't seen anything on the energy bill except this bit. I don't suppose Congress has decided we should have domestic oil self-sufficiency, though ...


81 posted on 07/29/2005 4:46:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Normal4me

In Iceland, a pint of beer was about 9 bucks each, I couldn't afford much more.


82 posted on 07/29/2005 4:48:10 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Apply generously to sunburned or irritated skin as needed)
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To: Tax-chick
FRiends, do you think our typso participant is a troll, or just a no0b who hasn't figured out that we're proud to be Far Right around here?

Naaaa... I don't think this is a troll. Not everyone here is Far Right.

I happen to be but hey, I'm just a kook.

83 posted on 07/29/2005 4:48:40 PM PDT by houeto
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To: skip_intro

"It gets dark here at 4 p.m. on the darkest day of the year," Davis said. "So this will be advantageous to us."



Uhhhh.....forgive my stupidity,but doesnt the darkest day corelate to the SHORTEST day of the year?..Which the last time I looked was on December 21st,give or take....?


84 posted on 07/29/2005 4:48:46 PM PDT by Nekman
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To: Tax-chick
None of my little squirts were born in February, March is the closest. At least the last months won't be in the heat of summer for you. My daughter was born mid-July and my poor wife was in agony with the heat, before and after.

Nam Vet

P.S. I think we might be talking about 2 different Groucho jokes.

85 posted on 07/29/2005 4:49:38 PM PDT by Nam Vet (There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works.)
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To: Cobra64

We work on the cold/heat factor. In the winter we show up as late as 9am. In the summer we start as early as possible even if it's still dark out. Being a carpenter, you can't really fire up the tools at 5am or you'll P.O. some neighbors.


86 posted on 07/29/2005 4:49:40 PM PDT by Normal4me (I'm sweating like a muslim wearing a backpack on a London subway!)
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To: houeto

My troll-sniffing baby has wandered off to watch a Veggie Tale, so I'll yield to your judgment.


87 posted on 07/29/2005 4:50:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: All

This is dumb, it screws up Holloween.


88 posted on 07/29/2005 4:50:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Nam Vet

The cigar one?


89 posted on 07/29/2005 4:50:28 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: BenLurkin
This is so stupid. My favorite was: The change, though, would be beneficial for some farmers who would get an extra hour of daylight for a longer portion of the year.

Hello, same number of daylight hours in a day. Farmers hit the trail and dawn, and that's not going to change.

90 posted on 07/29/2005 4:50:40 PM PDT by Melas (The dumber the troll, the longer the thread)
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To: Tax-chick
>>I don't suppose Congress has decided we should have domestic oil self-sufficiency, though

I think that might harm the rare speckled sedimentary rock beetle, Butuminous beetalius. Pretty sure we can't have that.

91 posted on 07/29/2005 4:51:06 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: BenLurkin
DST was invented in Germany to save money for municipalities and swept the world somehow in the midst of WWI. I'm in AZ and we do not participate in the madness, especially because air conditioning trumps lights by a LOT.

It might make sense in northern states but in southern states it's just a waste of time. At least this time they're being honest about the reason; I've heard over and over that DST is 'for the farmers' but it turns out nobody was more opposed to it than farmers back when it was adopted. Why? Farmers get up when it's dark anyway, and screwing up the hours of the day screws up their routine. If you get up at 0400, and you've got a job that requires light at 0700, and now it won't be light till 0800...well you get the picture. So farmers mostly ignored it and avoided time-travel.

Though this time they're telling us that they want to save a little money it's not going to make much difference. AC is getting on towards universal, and what with all the electronics in houses these days the power consumption goes up at night when everybody gets home from work.

A boondoggle worthy of Congress.
92 posted on 07/29/2005 4:53:49 PM PDT by RenaissanceNerd (Geek of at least seven arts)
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To: BenLurkin
I have a pretty good newly elected state rep here. I am going to try to get him busy on exempting Tennessee from DST.

Uh, is that doable? Or will the Yankee nation invade us again - this time to mess with our clocks?

93 posted on 07/29/2005 4:54:34 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: Betis70

Martyred sigh. It almost causes one to be disappointed in dear Mr. Cheney.


94 posted on 07/29/2005 5:00:54 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: Tax-chick
Yup. 8^) Guess we were on the same page.

Nam Vet

95 posted on 07/29/2005 5:27:47 PM PDT by Nam Vet (There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works.)
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To: Nam Vet

Sigh.


96 posted on 07/29/2005 5:30:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: BenLurkin

Works for me... later sunset = more golf.


97 posted on 07/29/2005 5:30:14 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: Nam Vet

p.s., Thanks for your service - my dad was in Vietnam in 1967-68 and 1971-72.


98 posted on 07/29/2005 5:31:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Standing athwart history, shouting, "Turn those lights off! You think electricity grows on trees?")
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To: BenLurkin

They tried this in the 70's during Jimmy's energy crisis. I remember starting my day in Middle School in pitch blackness during the winter. For the life of me, I can't quite figure out where the "Energy Savings" is - I mean, we didn't get ready for school in the dark without TURNING ON SOME LIGHTS!


100 posted on 07/29/2005 5:53:25 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (D.S.T: Dumb. Stupid. Tried It. (and it didn't work))
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