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FRIST COMMENTS ON STEM CELL RESEARCH - Floor Statement -- Remarks As Prepared For Delivery
Senator Bill Frist website ^ | July 29, 2005 | Sen. Bill Frist

Posted on 07/29/2005 12:15:49 PM PDT by AFPhys

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er, that "anyone" should be "anyway."


81 posted on 07/29/2005 1:45:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone
He and Trent Lott both have been infected with that D.C. Disease

And that disease is a Barney Frank phenomenon....

FRIST GOES LIMP IN THE WRIST

82 posted on 07/29/2005 1:46:34 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Echo Talon
Those of you worried about Congress imposing restrictions and limits are falling for the trap. Once there is Government sanction for this sort of activity, you will find it being used as the basis for hundreds of arguments for its expansion, all the way to Rove v. Wade. You can bet on that. Any legislation supporting Stem Cell research will be used to open the floodgates on all forms of pro abortion arguments.
83 posted on 07/29/2005 1:48:09 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: standingfirm
It was a rhetorical question.

I know.
So was my answer.
The leftists have their hands over their ears.
They want no curbs on killing embryos because to somehow imply that it amounts
to killing a human being would threaten the Holy Grail of the left: Roe v. Wade.

84 posted on 07/29/2005 1:49:12 PM PDT by XR7
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To: AFPhys

Thanks for including me on your ping. I shot from the hip earlier, and will need to mull this over as well, but I cannot accept the notion of considering human embryoes as some commodity for research purposes. I'm all for pushing stem cell research -- using adult stem cells, cord blood stem cells, and placenta stem cells, and so forth. I have yet to see compelling evidence that embryonic stem cell research has the "promise" that its proponents claim; to the contrary, what I've read of embryonic stem cell research, it's pretty unpromising.


85 posted on 07/29/2005 1:50:47 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: oceanview
Nancy Reagan is going to be on MSNBC with her son today

You mean Twinkle Toes?

86 posted on 07/29/2005 1:52:19 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Yaelle
Why don't they just use all cord blood

[...sound of crickets...]

The really hard-nosed proponents are pushing embryonic stem cell research, not because of its *promise*, but to add further weight to the argument that human life does not begin at conception (or if it does, it is not worth protecting).

87 posted on 07/29/2005 1:55:59 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
You all have your fun, now, but I'll stick to those posts which stick to the actual point.

Thank you for your kind response.

88 posted on 07/29/2005 1:56:43 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: muawiyah

I watched the rebroadcast on C-Span just now with DeLay and Weldon and Gingrey and others talking about Frist's new stand on funding for destructive embryonic stem cell research. Many of them talked about how shocked and disappointed they are, and the pro-life medical doctors among them talked about the science involved. It was an informative and reassuring press conference for those who feel that adult stem cell research is the better way to go for moral erasons.

Shock does not even begin to describe how I feel in hearing the news of this betrayal by Frist. How can the Majority Leader get away with opposing the President on this issue and remain Majority Leader? Doesn't party discipline mean anything?

Frist may as well give up on the presidency now. Ths flip flop added to his ineffectiveness on Schiavo has lost him the pro-life vote.


89 posted on 07/29/2005 1:58:12 PM PDT by romans828
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To: Republican Wildcat

Excellent list


90 posted on 07/29/2005 1:58:56 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Dr.Hilarious
, and using something about to be thrown in the trash,

Your position is tragically obvious.

91 posted on 07/29/2005 1:59:48 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: sonofagun

It was disgusting to hear people on the Senate floor talking about human embryos as "medical waste".

Medical waste??!!!??!! That term is disrespectful to the point of blasphemy. I am still picking my jaw up off the floor.


92 posted on 07/29/2005 2:04:17 PM PDT by romans828
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Federal funding should be a separate issue. There are plenty of people who would like the government to ban embryonic stem cell research altogether, regardless of who's paying the tab, and a lot of those people are using the federal funding debate as a platform to promote their ideas. Personally, I regard any restrictions whatsoever on any kind of stem cell research as dangerous Luddite-ism. But I'm no fan of government funding for anything that can realistically be done by the private sector, and this is certainly private sector doable.

If there's anything I find scarier than Luddites managing to get this type of research banned altogether, it's the prospect of government providing it heavy funding and then ending up owning many of the key patents. This would put the government in a stronger position to implement full-blown socialized medicine, by withholding the treatments developed by these methods from use by anyone outside the government health system, or requiring big royalty payments for such uses.


93 posted on 07/29/2005 2:05:33 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: romans828

When we lose sight of the value for the sanctity of life, we will have lost our humanity. A large portion of our society, I'm afraid, has already done so.


94 posted on 07/29/2005 2:07:40 PM PDT by sonofagun
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To: AFPhys
Here's the take on it from the cartoonist from Non-Sequitur:


95 posted on 07/29/2005 2:09:12 PM PDT by SuperSonic (Proud to be an American!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
My point is that it loses its case both ways: Even if you could make the moral case, then it is still a ridiculous expenditure of money.
96 posted on 07/29/2005 2:11:53 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Actually, many surplus embryos from IVF clinics are being made available for "adoption" and there are quite a lot of children running around today who were born via that route. And it's doubtful that embryos which are too severely damaged to have the potential to grow into babies, could provide healthy stem cell lines. However, many parents are uncomfortable with their genetic offspring being raised by unknown people, or as is often the case, not even knowing whether their donated embryos ever turned into babies. They should continue to have the choice, as they do now, to offer their embryos for adoption, donate them to research, or discard them however they see fit (some "parents" of frozen embryos hold a private burial service, others just check a box on a form letter from the clinic saying "discard").


97 posted on 07/29/2005 2:12:10 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Dr.Hilarious
I don't see the problem with using embryos created in the process of fertility treatments which are due to be destroyed anyway. If the argument is that this encourages abortion, this has zero to do with that. This material is going to be created--artificial insemination and other such fertility treatments are here to stay and are not going anywhere, period. So why NOT use them?

All slippery-slope deals begin with a seemingly benign explanation. The next thing you know, taxpayer money will be spent to entice folks to have these "fertiltiy treatments" with the sole intent of acquiring new stem cell lines. A pinhole in the dam soon starts eroding all around it until the dam breaks.

98 posted on 07/29/2005 2:18:54 PM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: AFPhys
This is a very difficult issue.

Only for those without a conscience.

99 posted on 07/29/2005 2:21:33 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
("My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."-Joe W)

Your tag line is hilarious! Please tell me that it's real!

100 posted on 07/29/2005 2:25:46 PM PDT by NH Liberty ("For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus..." [1 Timothy 2:5])
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