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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

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To: onyx

Maybe it's b/c of the summer season,
but many anchors have been absent
off & on a day or two per week.

I hate when they have subs, too.


381 posted on 07/29/2005 5:03:13 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: MAWG

Glad to serve, MAWG! :o)


382 posted on 07/29/2005 5:04:44 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: truthluva
Sorry, but I don't agree. A 17 year old kid would be too easy to break if all he was giving up was a middle man.

BUT, what could he give? The middle man who would be tougher to break? He couldn't give much else since he would not be privy to much at all.

He wouldn't take the heat for that. I think if anything close to this scenario exists it didn't happen because Joran planned for it to. That's just my opinion.

My post said there COULD have been a middle man. I only meant what better bait to attract young women? A young guy?I'm not convinced he planned for it to happen either.

383 posted on 07/29/2005 5:05:14 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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On Nancy Grace:

Jossy Mansur: White pickup with three men placed both at HI and landfill.

Nancy: Wasn't a white pickup at the Fishermen's Huts?

Jossy: Don't know.


384 posted on 07/29/2005 5:08:11 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: monkeywrench
Exactly. Especially if someone was well known. Drug dealers use young gophers, too.

Wasn't one of the Kalpoe's supposed to have been a drug dealer?

385 posted on 07/29/2005 5:08:17 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Rippersnapper

"" My post said there COULD have been a middle man. I only meant what better bait to attract young women? A young guy?I'm not convinced he planned for it to happen either.""


Perhaps you also read the same report or theory, like I did, which said a so called pretty boy is used as bait to set up the intended victim.


386 posted on 07/29/2005 5:09:10 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: truthluva
This just posted at SM

"Have ya'll heard anything about this? I am copying a post from "ladygold" on the SM, Natalee Holloway Forum, thread entitled "Are Joren's Friends Planting False Leads/Tips?"

"saw these alarming posts on an Aruban site and wonder if it could be true?! Some people are claiming that JVDS's friends are involved in giving false tips and leads to through the investigation off and drive the investigators nutty.. And that there's going to be a big party for Joren when he is released.....! "

"Here are the links.... "

" http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=4115&t=4115 http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=4026&t=4026 "

" They are posts by a girl named JENNA....

" Very disconcerting to say the least, but it could be true."

" http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=4026&t=4026 Re: Sad Bored Women Who Watch A Lot of TV Author: jenna (---.proxy.aol.com) Date: 07-29-05 13:29

" Thank you for having th courage to say what most of us think!!! Bless you!! Have you eve4r heard such nonsense??? Venezula, drug dealers, shango, blah blah!!!! My husband is a homicide detective on the island and he said they sit around and laugh and make fun of the idiots and their "theories". He said they're a good form of entertainment for the squad!!! They nominate the "IDIOT POSTER of the day" everyday and they're hilarious!! They've got the ONE FBI agent joining in now!!! Get over it people. Natalee is DEAD and NO ONE will find her body!!! Joran needs to keep quiet and we'll give him a welcome home party on Sept 4th!! Can't wait!!"

387 posted on 07/29/2005 5:09:48 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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Nancy Grace:

Roger Winkler from SLC (Hacking case): Very physically demanding. By hand with rakes. Weather, insects, smell, etc., very difficult. Physical and visual search of debris to preserve for trial.


388 posted on 07/29/2005 5:10:08 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; sarasota; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; maggief; ...
Nancy Grace:

Susan Candiotti:Not sufficient grounds for dna from Satish.

Missing documents and prosecutors need to get those files regarding Joran to submit request for his dna.

Witness saw what could have been a body which was wrapped in something. Witness also saw a vehicle which he got the tag # of.

Jossy states that it was a white pickup with 3 occupants. Another witness saw a white pickup at the Holiday Inn carrying what looked like it could be a body. Per Jossy these two witness do not know one another. The 3 occupants of the white pickup have not been identified.

389 posted on 07/29/2005 5:10:17 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Rippersnapper

I heard that the Kalpoe brothers were drug dealers, early on too.


390 posted on 07/29/2005 5:10:34 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Rippersnapper

"BUT, what could he give? The middle man who would be tougher to break? He couldn't give much else since he would not be privy to much at all. "

I think this is a point that you and I will have to agree to disagree about. Sex slave trade is a very secretive business. My opinion is that it's not something you would want to trust a kid with.

I understood your post, I just humbly disagree.


391 posted on 07/29/2005 5:10:35 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: onyx
Nancy Grace on:

Talking about the landfill now:

Two separate witnesses, don't know about each other,

one saw a white pickup truck, three people(males) with what looked like a female body, around the Holiday Inn

The other witness saw the pickup at the landfill, got the tag numbers of the pickup, saw three males drop a wrapped female body in the landfill.

Jossey says the witness at the landfill is the operator of the landfill.
392 posted on 07/29/2005 5:11:50 PM PDT by Rusty Roberts (an empty space is a terrible waste)
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To: truthluva

http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=4026&t=4026
http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=4115&t=4115 http://www.aruba.com/msgbrd/read.php?f=13&i=4026&t=4026


393 posted on 07/29/2005 5:12:51 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

Not surprised to read your report, Monkeywrench. They did the same thing last weekend too. The more some on SM protest, I'm thinking the closer Shango is to the truth.


394 posted on 07/29/2005 5:13:03 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Rusty Roberts

WHOA! Got the tag number of the truck! Now that's something of substance.

Thanks for the report. I am tv deprived until Wednesday. Much appreciated.


395 posted on 07/29/2005 5:15:45 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: TexKat

Aha, thanks.


396 posted on 07/29/2005 5:16:04 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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SM:
http://www.scaredmonkeys.net/viewtopic.php?t=1903&start=60&sid=f4966b38e196a584d892a9ef5b820e55

uma
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:05 pm    

OMG.....THE WITNESS GAVE A TAG NUMBER!!!!!


397 posted on 07/29/2005 5:17:29 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: theophilusscribe; Andy'smom; ruoflaw; KylaStarr; sarasota; Jaded; cyborg; kcvl; TAquinas; ...
Missing guy from casino - Missing guy on June 10th.

Witness reports white pick up truck seen at landfill. When, what date?

Reported June 10th missing guy's truck was found. What color was it, what was the tag #?

398 posted on 07/29/2005 5:17:33 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Pepper777
This sure goes with my theory that Paulus had those friends of jorans over to enlist their help. They say he called them over to ask what they told police, but he pretty well had the cops under wraps via vanderstraaten, so that didn't make sense.

One can not help but notice paulus' flying monkeys all over the different Natalee forums, slinging mud and obscuring what little we know.

399 posted on 07/29/2005 5:17:45 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: the Deejay

Here's the link to the site that has several photos of the rental house.

http://www.arubahomerental.com/rental-1.html


400 posted on 07/29/2005 5:18:14 PM PDT by elli1
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