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Salty dogma: Bono gives an explicit confession of being saved by Grace, not Karma
WORLD ^ | August 6, 2005 | Gene Edward Veith

Posted on 07/29/2005 5:11:57 AM PDT by rhema

Is Bono, the lead singer and songwriter for the rock group U2, a Christian? He says he is and writes about Christianity in his lyrics. Yet many people question whether Bono is "really" a Christian, due to his notoriously bad language, liberal politics, and rock star antics (though he has been faithfully married for 23 years). But in a new book of interviews, Bono in Conversation by Michka Assayas, Bono, though using some salty language, makes an explicit confession of faith.

The interviewer, Mr. Assayas, begins by asking Bono, Doesn't he think "appalling things" happen when people become religious? Bono counters, "It's a mind-blowing concept that the God who created the Universe might be looking for company, a real relationship with people, but the thing that keeps me on my knees is the difference between Grace and Karma."

The interviewer asks, What's that? "At the center of all religions is the idea of Karma. You know, what you put out comes back to you: an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, or in physics—in physical laws—every action is met by an equal or an opposite one," explains Bono. "And yet, along comes this idea called Grace to upend all that. . . . Love interrupts, if you like, the consequences of your actions, which in my case is very good news indeed, because I've done a lot of stupid stuff."

The interviewer asks, Like what? "That's between me and God. But I'd be in big trouble if Karma was going to finally be my judge," says Bono. "It doesn't excuse my mistakes, but I'm holding out for Grace. I'm holding out that Jesus took my sins onto the Cross, because I know who I am, and I hope I don't have to depend on my own religiosity."

Then the interviewer marvels, "The Son of God who takes away the sins of the world. I wish I could believe in that."

"The point of the death of Christ is that Christ took on the sins of the world, so that what we put out did not come back to us, and that our sinful nature does not reap the obvious death," replies Bono. "It's not our own good works that get us through the gates of Heaven."

The interviewer marvels some more: "That's a great idea, no denying it. Such great hope is wonderful, even though it's close to lunacy, in my view. Christ has His rank among the world's great thinkers. But Son of God, isn't that farfetched?"

Bono comes back, "Look, the secular response to the Christ story always goes like this: He was a great prophet, obviously a very interesting guy, had a lot to say along the lines of other great prophets, be they Elijah, Muhammad, Buddha, or Confucius. But actually Christ doesn't allow you that. He doesn't let you off that hook. Christ says, No. I'm not saying I'm a teacher, don't call me teacher. I'm not saying I'm a prophet. I'm saying: 'I'm the Messiah.' I'm saying: 'I am God incarnate.' . . . So what you're left with is either Christ was who He said He was—the Messiah—or a complete nutcase. . . . The idea that the entire course of civilization for over half of the globe could have its fate changed and turned upside-down by a nutcase, for me that's farfetched."

What is most interesting in this exchange is the reaction of the interviewer, to whom Bono is, in effect, witnessing. This hip rock journalist starts by scorning what he thinks is Christianity. But it is as if he had never heard of grace, the atonement, the deity of Christ, the gospel. And he probably hadn't. But when he hears what Christianity is actually all about, he is amazed.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bono; bornagain; christians; music; u2; witnessing
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To: Victoria Delsoul
My sister used to be a huge U2 fan.

In fact, she still is.

Though, her ardor might have declined with age.

Theirs, not hers.

;)

221 posted on 07/29/2005 10:01:32 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Interesting tidbit of information. ;-)


222 posted on 07/29/2005 10:04:15 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I was teasing her a few years ago, because of an appearance that Bono & Co had made on SNL.

In the middle of one of their performances their once vibrant, youthful lead singer enthusiastically mounted an object adjacent to the stage-a table, I believe-but was forced to rely on a team of well-paid handlers in order to get down.

It reminded me of the Rolling Stones during the '80s.

Something tells me that Mick Jagger et. al. are going to need walkers in order to perform "Start Me Up," among other numbers, during their next world tour.

:0)

223 posted on 07/29/2005 10:48:32 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

LOL!!! How old is Mick? I dare say he's as old as my dad, good grief.


224 posted on 07/29/2005 10:53:56 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: SunnySide
yes....but to atone for what they had committed...then after that the road to reformation..but we have eternity to work it out.

Red

225 posted on 07/29/2005 11:16:26 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (God bless America...land that I love...stand beside her and guide her...)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

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226 posted on 07/29/2005 11:36:24 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("I'm okay with being unimpressive. It helps me sleep better.")
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To: Jorge
True

But as I said in a later post on this thread

When I was saved Jesus got all of me and I got all of Him.

So since that is true and I am a Saved by Grace individual.
How could I support those issues or support people that support those issues and still be wholly indwelt by Christ. Read James it speaks about being "double minded".

As a Christian I want to be what Christ wants me to be wholly.
Feeding the poor and clothing the naked is that enough? I would say thats a lot more than most do and its a good thing to do but according to scripture " there is none good no not one" and "all of our righteousness's are as filthy rags."
All I am saying is that Christians cannot be double minded.
Even if they do not act or speak out on all issues.

RB<><
227 posted on 07/30/2005 5:30:28 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: Conservative4Ever

"yes....but to atone for what they had committed...then after that the road to reformation..but we have eternity to work it out. "

I don't agree about Hitler and Mengele. Terms like Heaven and hell, burn in hell, go to hell, eternal hell, fire and damnation(damn nation = hell) would not exist.

On a lighter note:

"Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lover's Swiss, the police German and it's all organized by the Italians."



228 posted on 07/30/2005 6:46:53 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Salvation

Christ's death and resurrection for our sins =
Grace=
God's Riches at Christ's Expense=
the gift of salvation I never could have paid for myself.

Thank you Jesus!


229 posted on 07/30/2005 8:06:45 AM PDT by keats5
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To: SunnySide

wow, you must lead a lot of hell bound sinners into the light with that attitude.

(not just the one post, all of 'em)

when i'm with friends and the subject of Christianity comes up it is the stereotypical condescending, holier-than-thou attitude like the one i've been reading here that keeps us away.


230 posted on 07/30/2005 11:36:15 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: norge

Never have been a fan of U2 from a musical standpoint but I like this latest album moreso than others. But on this Bono has hit the nail on the end. Grace, not Karma, I like that


231 posted on 07/30/2005 11:39:56 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: kpp_kpp

wow, you must lead a lot of hell bound sinners into the light with that attitude.

(not just the one post, all of 'em)

when i'm with friends and the subject of Christianity comes up it is the stereotypical condescending, holier-than-thou attitude like the one i've been reading here that keeps us away.





Oh please, get a grip and don't be such a petite flower. Life is tough, deal with it. I don't need a rock star(celebrity worship) to guide me on the right path which is what this topic is all about.


232 posted on 07/30/2005 11:56:30 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

I always give books to my frinds for Christmas.

This year, they are going to get Mere Christianity.


233 posted on 07/30/2005 1:51:57 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: SunnySide
I do love your concept of Heaven. :)

Red

234 posted on 07/30/2005 1:53:53 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (God bless America...land that I love...stand beside her and guide her...)
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To: Dasaji

I felt compelled to answer. But, no need. You did it better than I could have.


235 posted on 07/30/2005 1:56:52 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: jammer

and Tolkien, who saved Lewis :-)


236 posted on 07/30/2005 1:59:37 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Rightly Biased

I believe yes.


237 posted on 07/30/2005 2:01:43 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: reagan_fanatic

And God bless you.


238 posted on 07/30/2005 2:03:28 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: rhema

Sounds like he's got the right theology. Let's pray he sees the truth about politics, although I can't say Jesus would be a card carying member of either major political party today. It sure seems that the GOP is a lot closer with their pro-life stance and that's where I'll hang my hat.


239 posted on 07/30/2005 2:04:55 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: johnb838

No one is perfect. Trying to aim for it is hopeless, but perhaps admirable. Trying to pretend to be is ... Well you make up your own mind.


240 posted on 07/30/2005 2:05:20 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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