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Un****ing the Donkey ( Rick Perlstein Says Free Republic More Crucial than Heritage Foundation)
The Village Voice ^ | Thursday, July 28, 2005 | Rick Perlstein

Posted on 07/28/2005 2:52:20 PM PDT by kristinn

The centrist Democratic Leadership Council meets this week in Columbus, Ohio, with Senator Hillary Clinton the newly named chair of their newly launched yearlong "American Dream Initiative." Her mission: to come up with a new idea agenda for the Democrats. Recently our former national correspondent Rick Perlstein gave a speech to a group of powerful Democrats suggesting an agenda of his own based on his new book The Stock Ticker and the Superjumbo: How the Democrats Can Once Against Become America's Dominant Political Party. Here, with some identifying details changed, is what he told them.

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The name of this panel is "Building a New Idea Infrastructure for Progressives."

I was given the privilege of coming before you today, I suppose, because of my expertise on the history of the conservative idea infrastructure.

So it may come as a surprise to you that I've never been impressed by the argument that we need a new idea infrastructure. We've got more ideas than we need.

Sure, the right talks about "ideas" all the time. But they define it exactly opposite from us. For us it is a synonym for clever, complicated new policy options. For them, it's Plato's definition of Ideas: as unchanging essences. The stuff that builds foundations.

As usual, Ronald Reagan boiled it down to essentials. He liked to say—maybe he said it to some of you—"There are no easy answers. But there are simple answers." I'm here to say he's right. "Building a progressive idea structure" ain't the problem. It's recovering the progressive foundation. Do that, and we are un****withable.

It's simple. Barack Obama put it exquisitely in his victory speech: "Government can help provide us with the basic tools we need to live out the American dream."

Here's a dirty little secret. The Republicans know this. Nothing scares them more than us returning to our simple answers.

Here's Bill Kristol, in a famous 1993 memo I'm sure you're all familiar with: "Health care is not, in fact, just another Democratic initiative . . . the plan should not be amended; it should be erased. . . . It will revive the reputation of the . . . Democrats, as the generous protector of middle-class interests."

I'd say this memo is the skeleton key to understanding modern American politics, if it didn't make me yawn. There's nothing here that's unfamiliar to historians who've read Republican secrets going back 25, 35, even 70 years. You can sum them up in 10 words: "If the Democrats succeed in redistributing economic power, we're screwed."

They have reason to fear.

There is a website that thousands of committed Republicans spend hours on, giving and receiving marching orders. When people stray from the party line, it's not unusual for them to be banned. Free Republic, I'd argue, is far more crucial to the Republican infrastructure than the Heritage Foundation.

Please refer to your handout. The first column records some typical things "Freepers" say. The second records what the same Freeper said after the Senate voted cloture on the president's bankruptcy bill. Column A: "We are going to see a day, in our lifetimes, when schools force children to engage in homosexual acts as 'projects' or 'homework' for sex-ed." Same guy, column B: "The newly amended bankruptcy law is a criminal act perpetrated, bought and paid for by commercial pirates masquerading as legitimate businesses."

I won't belabor the point that I believe that the Democrats pay a huge long-term price for those Democrats who let that bankruptcy bill go through. The Republicans understand us better than we understand ourselves. When we are not credible defenders of the economic interests of ordinary Americans, we amount to little. When we are, we're a nuclear bomb to the heart of their coalition.

The Christian right is a political machine. Very little is asked of its cogs: just that they consult the call board on election day, and vote the way it says. It takes enormous effort to get them to do just that, as any of their leaders will freely tell you. Any of Richard J. Daley's precinct captains would have told you the same thing.

It doesn't take much to demobilize a machine voter: Just install some doubt that people who claim to be their champions are not really their champions. If the Democrats had been united against the bankruptcy bill, we could even have demobilized some of these Freepers.

That's the way they did it with us. The stuff about the Democrats being "cultural elitists" spread a nagging doubt. People stopped looking to the call board. Even some of the activists.

The time is ripe to do it to them. A Pentecostal friend of mine just returned from a mission to El Salvador with his childhood church from rural Louisiana. He used to regale me with tales of annual July 4 Pentecostal retreats that were like Nuremberg rallies in praise of the Great Leader. That's over now. The straw that broke the camel's back, he tells me, was people not being able to afford to go to the dentist. They also have vanishingly low faith in Bush's foreign policy, and in the Iraq war.

They're getting demobilized.

That's great. But here's the catch. They have to have somewhere to go. That's where the simple stuff comes in.

Let's talk about Social Security.

The most glorious thing about congressional Democrats is that they have drawn the line and said: No further. Don't. Touch. Social. Security. It is a heroic stand. What's more, it's been enormously politically effective.

Now think about this: They are drawing on the capital of an entitlement passed 70 years ago.

They'll be drawing on the capital from Medicare 35 years from now. Congressional Democrats won't let them kill it. Because they understand: These programs make life in America fundamentally better. And because these gooses, Social Security, Medicare, lay golden eggs. They manufacture Democrats.

It is the duty of every generation of Democrats to produce new geese to lay 70 years of golden eggs. It is the only way our party has grown—as Bill Kristol puts it, by reviving the reputation of the Democrats as the generous protector of middle-class interests. They know they're screwed if we're credible in our pledge to deliver new kinds of power to ordinary people in their every day lives.

Democratic congressmen can do that, for example, by making a credible collective pledge that if you vote Democrat enough you will never pay another medical bill as long as you live. You really think people wouldn't stop voting Republican then?

It makes a virtuous circle. The most important exit poll finding from last year's election was not about moral values. It was all the people who said they disagreed with Bush on the issues, but they were voting for him anyway because they knew what he stood for.

What I call "superjumbos"—grand policy commitments that span generations—add value by the very credibility of the commitment.

It isn't any accident that not raising taxes is a pledge every Republican makes, on pain of political death. It has not hurt them even though, according to Stanley Greenberg's polls, only 30 percent of Americans call high taxes a very serious problem.

To complete the circle—in the same poll 77 percent called "the state of health care in America" a serious problem.

Remember when Dick Morris used to tell President Clinton that he couldn't afford not to be on the side of any issue supported by 60 percent of Americans? Paul Krugman reported a poll that 72 percent of Americans favor "government-guaranteed health insurance for all."

Guaranteed. Health Insurance. For All. Not, as I found it formulated on the website of even one of the most liberal senators, "access to affordable health insurance."

Simple.

Not easy.

So Democrats, let's get to work.


TOPICS: Editorial; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: leftistgarbage; perlstein; villagevoice
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To: tiredoflaundry
I figured I never got marching orders since I haven't earned my decoder ring yet!

Make sure you are logged on when you install the software.

61 posted on 07/28/2005 3:13:05 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: tiredoflaundry
I figured I never got marching orders since I haven't earned my decoder ring yet!

We have decoder rings?!? Alright JimRob, now I'm ticked!! This is hugh and series!

62 posted on 07/28/2005 3:13:05 PM PDT by houeto ("Mr. President , close our borders now!")
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To: kristinn

This is so unfair. How would I know what to think if someone didn't tell me what to think?


63 posted on 07/28/2005 3:13:51 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: kristinn
There is a website that thousands of committed Republicans spend hours on, giving and receiving marching orders. When people stray from the party line, it's not unusual for them to be banned.

What a load. IMHO, FReepers are (generally) Conservative first, and maybe Republican if the party is doing what it should be doing as our representative party. If not, plenty of FReepers openly criticize GOP policies and votes without getting banned.

You get banned for being a troll, or a jerk to other FReepers.

But dang, FR is great, ain't it?

64 posted on 07/28/2005 3:13:53 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: kristinn
"There is a website that thousands of committed Republicans spend hours on, giving and receiving marching orders. When people stray from the party line, it's not unusual for them to be banned."

ROFLMAO...Hey I didn't get my marching orders today in my Freepmail. What happened? I don't know what to do with myself today...LOL...Geez this is hilarious. The only people who get banned from this site are obvious liberal trolls who are attempting to promote their agenda on FR, or people trying to promote border vigilantism and other wacko causes.

It's amusing the way libs try to portray FR as this rigid gang of far-right extremists who all share the exact same views. That's just completely wrong: people are all over the map on almost every issue discussed here.

65 posted on 07/28/2005 3:14:04 PM PDT by carl in alaska (Hey John Kerry...we don't do this just for "entertainment.")
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To: humblegunner

oh.......... ok ;-)


66 posted on 07/28/2005 3:14:19 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Tampa Bay, Fl. The lightning capital of the world!)
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To: kristinn
And because these gooses, Social Security, Medicare, lay golden eggs. They manufacture Democrats.

That line may well come back to haunt him. If that statement could be publicized far and wide, and pinned on the democrats, the true reason for their objections to modernizing and strengthening Social Security would be out of the bag.

67 posted on 07/28/2005 3:14:53 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Jackknife
Well, in a way this illustrates their way of thinking as well as anything I've seen in recent years. The Dems really don't understand free political debate such as we have here. They are used to a top-down approach of the leaders dictating the talking points, and those points are repeated until they start to ring of truthfulness (at least to them).

I guess they can't believe that regular folks like ourselves would engage in debate with each other to hone our positions and work out our ideas by subjecting them to intense scrutiny here. We must just be some kind of on-line focus group field-testing Karl Rove's latest talking points - because that is exactly they way they use the media - to test and disseminate talking points.

68 posted on 07/28/2005 3:15:17 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: kristinn

Y'know, in the past, I've argued in favor of gay marriage and marijuana legalization. Today, I've made several posts that partially defend Islam. I have yet to be banned.

I suspect the banning based more on behavior than straying from the party line.


69 posted on 07/28/2005 3:15:33 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: dirtboy

Don't forget James Dobson's secret revival meetings that have gripped the minds of half the country. LOL

Substitute FreeRepublic and Christians for = (The) American People.

In essense they fear and despise the People having a voice. A method of organization. Difficult for elites to thrive when the People are educated. Difficult to rule above us when we organize to remove their power from them.


70 posted on 07/28/2005 3:15:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: KeyWest
Interesting since he, in essence, says both freepers and Christians cannot think for themselves but have to have marching orders.

American liberals do not believe in free will. In this as in many other ways, they are like Communists. Marx said "Conditions create consciousness" - as such, Communists think they smarter than most as in their own minds they've broken this supposed link. Liberals feel the same way, and like Communists they regard most people as dupes who they have to guide to the glorious future for their own good.

To conclude, the war on American liberals is a continuation of the Cold War by other means.

Regards, Ivan

71 posted on 07/28/2005 3:15:55 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: Perlstein

You may want to see your speech dissected live.


72 posted on 07/28/2005 3:16:49 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Guenevere

Guennie, you and I have known each other for a long time - you know I'm always up for a fight with the liberals. I'm still mad at them for supporting Weird Bill. ;)

Regards, Ivan


73 posted on 07/28/2005 3:16:55 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: A. Pole; kristinn
"It is the duty of every generation of Democrats to produce new geese to lay 70 years of golden eggs."

Hey Perlstein, yer stupid effing geese have been aborting their golden eggs. Ergo: no geese, no eggs!

" Nothing scares them more than us returning to our simple answers."

Yeah, sure. How about something like, uh, oh say, "From each according to his abilities. To each according to his needs."

Yeah, that's the ticket. Oh wait, here's something even better now that Hillary's mission is "to come up with a new idea agenda for the Democrats.

Hillary Clinton:

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

74 posted on 07/28/2005 3:17:24 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Islam is not a religion, but rather a means of world conquest" - ALAN BURKHART.COM)
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To: wyattearp
That's the whole thing.

You will pay a medical bill,—yours and everybody else's. Then, the bill payers will have a right to come to your house and tell you what you can and cannot eat, how much your life is worth and in what order you will be allowed to receive that medical care. (Politicians and actors being of greatest import will skip to the front of the line of course.)

Yep, heaven on earth. Fortunately, to most Americans, this just doesn't sound credible AT ALL.

75 posted on 07/28/2005 3:17:58 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: dirtboy
As I reread the article it occurred to me that they are again seeing the Republican party as operating as they do...IE: marching orders, interest groups etc.

They just don't get the FREE part. That people actually do and can come to conclusions with out others (MSM, Union Leaders etc) telling them what/how to think.

They see free only in free-love, free-lunch, free-dumb....but see none of the consequences of their reactions.
76 posted on 07/28/2005 3:18:04 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Mr and Mrs Wilson III were both working UNDERtheCOVERS!)
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To: kristinn
If the death of the Dems were a game of clue, Rick's answer seems to be: Free Republic, on the Internet, with the VRWC marching orders.
77 posted on 07/28/2005 3:18:40 PM PDT by Stag_Man (Hamilton is my Hero)
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To: kristinn
They'll be drawing on the capital from Medicare 35 years from now. Congressional Democrats won't let them kill it. Because they understand: These programs make life in America fundamentally better. And because these gooses, Social Security, Medicare, lay golden eggs. They manufacture Democrats.

Until they become so fiscally untenable that even juggling the books doesn't keep them solvent.

78 posted on 07/28/2005 3:19:16 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Perlstein
There is a website that thousands of committed Republicans spend hours on, giving and receiving marching orders. When people stray from the party line, it's not unusual for them to be banned. Free Republic, I'd argue, is far more crucial to the Republican infrastructure than the Heritage Foundation.

Oh, please. I'm an ordinary American housewife, Rick.

The site has some value and some problems but it's nothing more than citizens expressing themselves as is their right(and permitted at the capricious whims of the owner) and it's interesting how the left hates that so. The left that truly is the party of talking points and can't follow a point to its logical conclusion.

79 posted on 07/28/2005 3:19:18 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: hoosiermama

See my post #68 - we came to pretty much the same conclusion upon further review. My original comment stands - this is a terminal case of projection.


80 posted on 07/28/2005 3:19:43 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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