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1 posted on 07/28/2005 2:12:18 PM PDT by Jean S
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Riyadh would make a much better target.


3 posted on 07/28/2005 2:15:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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Heck with Mecca; Nuke CAIR!


4 posted on 07/28/2005 2:15:47 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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OK. How about...

Don't Nuke Mecca When American Idol Is On.

(steely)

5 posted on 07/28/2005 2:15:49 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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6 posted on 07/28/2005 2:16:40 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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Already posted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1452450/posts?page=1,100

Come on over and enjoy the free-for-all.

7 posted on 07/28/2005 2:16:49 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (You can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd, but you can be happy if you've a mind to. - Roger Miller)
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I wonder how many Americans would have to get vaporized before
nuclear war was on the table... 1 million? 2 million? 20 million? 40 million?


8 posted on 07/28/2005 2:17:21 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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"Will men who glorify suicide bombing and praise their God for beheadings and massacres fear the destruction of holy sites? "

That would be just the first strike.....


9 posted on 07/28/2005 2:17:55 PM PDT by injin
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This Robert Spenser is fundamentally wrong: the cause for the fight is the simplest survival - better us survive than them - and the discussion of higher and finer points of Western principles is best left for the time after the dessert and coffee.


10 posted on 07/28/2005 2:18:05 PM PDT by GSlob
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>Primarily, of course, it contravenes Western principles of justice which, if discarded willy-nilly . . .

Let's not discard them
willy-nilly. But with thought.
And bombing Mecca

might deserve some thought.
Then, if we bomb it, it won't
be willy-nilly . . .

12 posted on 07/28/2005 2:22:10 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Since 622 A.D., Islam has destroyed every civilization that could not resist its malignancy. The day Mecca and Medina are reduced to radioactive rubble will be the greatest day of liberation the world has ever seen. F*** Mohammad and all his ignorant, murderous followers.


14 posted on 07/28/2005 2:25:30 PM PDT by infidel dog (nearer my God to thee....)
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Spencer is an asshole. If fundamentalist attack the US with nukes, it won't be just Tancredo who will be looking to nuke the rag-headed goat-humping islamists. At that point, we would need to take out every moslem country on earth--reducing them to glowing cinders. None of the "playing nice" nonsense by Spencer would be operative when the very survival of western civilization hangs in the balance. I'm sick of this Tancredo bashing by both Democraps and Republicans.


17 posted on 07/28/2005 2:29:05 PM PDT by Cautor
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Ok, if bombing Mecca won't work, how about nuking 100 Muslim Cities?
18 posted on 07/28/2005 2:29:31 PM PDT by MRMEAN (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of congress; but I repeat myself. - Mark Tw)
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If Mecca is "on the table", the Jihadis might think twice about actually putting American cities "on the table" and pulling the nuclear trigger.

Why should these fanatics get a free pass on their nutjob shrines? Let 'em sweat it out a little and wonder if we really mean business!

20 posted on 07/28/2005 2:31:16 PM PDT by Gritty ("The war Mohammad planned and carried out for Allah was total to the infinite degree-Brigadier Malik)
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“The Americans love Pepsi-Cola, we love death.” This lust for death runs through the rhetoric of today’s jihadists, and goes back to the Qur’an.

What this suggests then, is that we ought to launch a first strike and take them out before they can hit us.

21 posted on 07/28/2005 2:31:22 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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"Will men who glorify suicide bombing and praise their God for beheadings and massacres fear the destruction of holy sites?"

Maybe not, but 5 times each day they can ponder the question while praying in the direction of a radioactive hole in the ground.

26 posted on 07/28/2005 2:33:22 PM PDT by etcetera
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Where was this twit when we had Mutual Assured Destruction with the Russkies?


29 posted on 07/28/2005 2:40:03 PM PDT by expatpat
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The abolition of the caliphate, then, accomplished precisely the opposite of what Ataturk hoped it would: it gave the adherents of political Islam a cause around which to rally, recruit, and mobilize.

After MAD there won't be enough Muslims left in the world to worry about. When the "homeland" is radioactive, and oil fields are burning, every country they've gone to war with will seek revenge. And we won't be there to defend them. The strong countries will march in, put out the fires and steal the oil. No one's going to pretend there's a right and wrong when we're gone. It'll be might makes right. And the middle east has never had "might". No one will help them. It's not going to be pretty.... Millions of us would be dead too, but we'll come back. They won't.

30 posted on 07/28/2005 2:40:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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You know why I don't buy this crap about Muslim's being willing to die for Jihad?

Because we are capturing too many high ranking goat-fornicators.

The guys with their fingers on the trigger are the ones that give up without a fight when they are finally surrounded.

Oh, they talk about taking a bunch of infidels with them rather than be captured, but we keep pulling them out of spider holes and upper bedrooms.

Oddly, the only two really high-ranking guys that died in a hail of gunfire was Saddam's two idiot sons. I quite enjoyed that, actually, but I digress.

I think MAD not only works, but has been working for a at least a couple of years already. Given our reactions to other terrorist attacks, I think the last thing the goat-fornicators expected was GWB invading Afghanistan. Since then they've lost more than 50,000 insurgents in Iraq alone. That's a lot of secret terrorist training down the spider hole.

I also think we've back-channeled what our response to a nuclear or biological attack would actually be:

"Listen Obama, Osama, sorry - whatever. You carry that through and there wouldn't be a lot I'd be able to actually do about adding any restraint to the situation. I'd be forced to bring most of the middle east to 12,000 Centigrade for openers. Actually, I'd probably have to hit you with as many neutron bombs as I've got in my arsenal so that we could maintain the flow of oil to the rest of the Western World. I also don't have to tell you that anyone remotely islamic would be hunted and killed in a way that made what happened to you in Bosnia look like Senior Prom at the all boys Madras. It already happened to you in Europe at the end of the middle ages once for nothing so much as simply being pirates and thieves. If you nuke a major city, in the age of Fox News could you imagine how quickly you'd be rounded up like pit bulls and slaughtered in the streets?"

The guys running this war on their side are cowards, and they are giving suicide missions to idiots. The Japanese were 100 times smarter and braver than these morons and were quite willing to die for their king in WWII. The Japanese understood what Hiroshima meant.


32 posted on 07/28/2005 2:41:38 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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You missed something.

The Tancredo option would make Muhammad a liar:


KORAN [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque [Mecca, the Kaaba] after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html
33 posted on 07/28/2005 2:45:03 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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"There are an estimated 400,000 Christian Palestinians today, any of which has as much right to a homeland in Palestine as do Arab Palestinians. When they begin blowing up buses of civilians in Jerusalem, I will agree with Lord Ahmed that the problem is a political one and not a religious one." - Christopher Orlet
36 posted on 07/28/2005 2:50:14 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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