Now wait a minute, I don't think that at all. I believe a lot of people that support the war support it based on the ideal of 'America'. Or at least the ideal they were brought up to believe in. This doesn't make you non-thinking at all. I see it as an attitude that was taught back in schools prior to the 1970s. Now some went on to instill that same view within their children, some didn't. God knows my parents tried. It didn't stick. The faith they taught me did, but faith in government and government actions went right out the window. Doesn't make me 'anti-American'. It may make me anti-establishment, but heck what else would you expect from a libertarian?
I do hope you are right that somehow something good could come out of Iraq. However my gut, and history of the region, tells me we may not always get what we want.
Then why do you continue to accuse anyone who supports the war as blindly following RNC talking points? Try to be consistent here, bill.
As for the 'ideal of America'........I believe in it. I believe in American 'exceptionalism'.......that for some reason, by God's grace alone, we have been allowed to liberate millions upon millions of oppressed people over the world, and stand as a beacon of freedom in a dark world.
I was in elementary school in small town America in the 1950's, and raised in a family that loved America. I went through the dark '60's where I observed the attack of the left on the country I loved (that continues to this day), and went through the floor when a man I had worked to elect, Richard Nixon, stupidly got himself involved in covering up a silly crime. I watched the country go deeper and deeper into darkness with the administration of Jimmy Carter, and saw the sun rise again with Ronald Reagan, only to watch it nearly all come to an end because the corruption and debauchery of Bill Clinton. And in George W. Bush, I saw a hope that the country I had grown up in was still there.
I LOVE this country, and I am not ashamed of that fact. We have had horrible sins in our past........slavery and racism, and attempted genocide of Indians........and now we have the horrible sin of the slaughter of millions of pre-born babies.
This is not a perfect country. This is not a perfect administration. But it is a country that seeks to be good (because of the wisdom, foresight and GOODness of our Founders), and we have a President who seeks wisdom from God, and acts accordingly.
I trust him. I trust the wise people he has chosen to join him in leadership. If it comes to believing what Rumsfeld says, and the NY Times, I'll pick Rumsfeld every time.
The difference between you and me, is that you'll believe the Times first because of your distrust of all government, and that's why we will never agree about this war.
Thanks for being one of the only......maybe THE only rightist on this forum, who is not rude and mean (even though you are frequently condescending). You are an anomoly among those with your libertarian ideology.