NOVAK: "I can't tell anything I ever talked to Karl Rove about, because I don't think I ever talked to him about any subject even the time of day, on the record."
Is Novak saying he never talked about any subject "on the record" with Rove or "on the record" he never talked to Rove, about any subject?
I think he is saying that they talked, but off the record. Novak won't discuss off-the-record conversations. But Rove reportedly testified to the grand jury that he first heard Plame's name from Novak.