[churchillbuff]

you can liberate a nation set men and women free but you cannot liberate the minds from religious slavery """

Very true. Another reason why I didn't support this invasion.

[CzarChasm]

There we differ. I've been in favor of deposing Saddam since he started the first Gulf War.

The colonial and highly appropriate solution is to impose a new secular constitution for about a generation, then let the new generation amend that constitution to suit them. Asking a group of people who have never known freedom to write a constitution to guarantee freedom is tantamount to asking a former communist for business advice; they simply have no basis in experience to contribute anything useful