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Test vote shows gun industry win
The Washington Times ^ | July 27, 2005 | Brian DeBose

Posted on 07/27/2005 11:31:45 AM PDT by neverdem


The Washington Times
www.washingtontimes.com

Test vote shows gun industry win

By Brian DeBose
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published July 27, 2005

The Senate likely will pass a bill this week to make gun makers and dealers immune from civil lawsuits by local governments seeking to hold the industry responsible for gun-related crimes, after a test vote yesterday showed overwhelming support for the legislation.


    On Monday, the Lawful Commerce in Arms Act acquired a 60th Senate co-sponsor -- Sen. Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia Democrat. It easily passed the first hurdle on passage, being brought to the floor for debate on a 66-32 vote.


    Mr. Byrd's signature gave the bill 60 co-sponsors, assuring a filibuster-proof majority and passage on the floor, said Dan Whiting, spokesman for Sen. Larry E. Craig, Idaho Republican and the bill's sponsor.


    Sen. Jack Reed, Rhode Island Democrat, said his party expects to use the same tactic that defeated the bill last year: attaching poison-pill amendments to extend the assault weapons ban, require trigger locks on handguns, and force dealers at gun shows to conduct criminal-background checks on all purchasers.


    "Last year, the numbers did not look good for us, to be honest, but we felt some of these amendments needed to be addressed and some passed, although by close votes," he said.


    Those amendments made the bill unacceptable to the National Rifle Association and pro-gun lawmakers, and with liberal senators opposing the immunity provisions, the overall bill was rejected on a 98-2 vote.


    "I'm just sick at heart, but we'll fight as well as we can; 60 votes is a strong margin, no question," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein,...


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: West Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; bang; banglist; lawsuits; manufacturing; s396
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Go Sheets go!
1 posted on 07/27/2005 11:31:46 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

YEEEEE HAWWWWWW!


2 posted on 07/27/2005 11:33:07 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Squantos; El Gato; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; OXENinFLA; Dan from Michigan

Sheets got religion now! Now if only Fritz can keep it as a clean bill.


3 posted on 07/27/2005 11:34:37 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
"I'm just sick at heart, but we'll fight as well as we can; 60 votes is a strong margin, no question," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein...

IS THIS THE SAME SWINE-STEIN WHO WAS CALLED A 'MODERATE' ON A SUPREME COURT THREAD YESTERDAY??

4 posted on 07/27/2005 11:35:41 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: neverdem
"I'm just sick at heart, but we'll fight as well as we can; 60 votes is a strong margin, no question," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein,...

No. She's sick in the head and suffers from diarrhea of the mouth.

5 posted on 07/27/2005 11:38:56 AM PDT by BostonianRightist (I don't trust a government I can't shoot back at.)
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To: neverdem
 

NRA-ILA Grassroots Alert Vol. 12, SPECIAL ALERT 7/26/05

S. 397 ON SENATE FLOOR!--Final Vote Expected This Week!

This afternoon, the U.S. Senate invoked cloture on the motion to proceed to S. 397, "The Protection of Lawful Commerce In Arms Act."  S. 397 will now be debated on the Senate floor over the next few days.

Now is your final chance to contact your U.S. Senators and urge them to pass S. 397 without any anti-gun amendments!

Some of the possible anti-gun amendments expected to be offered to S. 397 include:

Please help us finish the job in the U.S. Senate by contacting your U.S. Senators IMMEDIATELY and urging them to support S. 397 without any anti-gun amendments.  Be sure to tell your Senators that you consider any votes for any anti-gun amendments as a vote against S. 397 itself.

(For more complete information on S. 397, and to contact your U.S. Senators, please go to http://www.nranews.org/UM/T.asp?A2.24.1788.9.15148. You may also call your U.S. Senators at (202) 224-3121.  Please IMMEDIATELY share this information with everyone you know who supports the Second Amendment!)

BUSH WHITE HOUSE ONCE AGAIN SUPPORTS S. 397

Below is the Bush Administration's "Statement of Administration Policy" in support of S. 397 released today:

"The Administration strongly supports Senate passage of S. 397. The Administration urges the Senate to pass a clean bill, in order to ensure enactment of the legislation this year. Any amendment that would delay enactment of the bill beyond this year is unacceptable. The manufacturer or seller of a legal, non-defective product should not be held liable for the criminal or unlawful misuse of that product by others.

"The possibility of imposing liability on an entire industry for harm that is solely caused by others is an abuse of the legal system, erodes public confidence in our Nation's laws, threatens the diminution of a basic constitutional right and civil liberty, sets a poor precedent for other lawful industries, will cause a loss of jobs, and burdens interstate and foreign commerce. S. 397 would help curb frivolous litigation against a lawful American industry and the thousands of workers it employs and would help prevent abuse of the legal system. The bill would also safeguard our national security by preventing frivolous lawsuits against an industry that plays an important role in fulfilling our military's procurement needs. At the same time, the legislation would carefully preserve the right of individuals to have their day in court with civil liability actions. These civil actions are enumerated in the bill and respect the traditional role of the States in the Nation's Federal system with regard to such actions."

6 posted on 07/27/2005 11:41:33 AM PDT by need_a_screen_name
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To: need_a_screen_name

I've contacted my Congressional reps. Neither Ted "Survival Swim" Kennedy nor John "I slandered Vietnam Vets" Kerry have replied. My Congressman, Richard Neal (Doofuss -- 2nd MCD), sent back a letter thanking me for my interest in immigration reform.


7 posted on 07/27/2005 11:58:43 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: neverdem
"I'm just sick at heart, but we'll fight as well as we can; 60 votes is a strong margin, no question," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein,...

She later continued: "But we've stopped the democratic process before, and we feel confident that we can stop it again."

8 posted on 07/27/2005 11:58:52 AM PDT by burzum
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To: neverdem
The only thing is I take exception to the headline as the "gun industry" winning - because everyone wins.

As we've found out after the cigarette lawsuits, the scum sucking bottom feeding lawyers are now going after the food industry. So whose to stop someone from suing Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc or "the car industry" in general for a car used in a robbery, a DUI and such.

After all 100% of drive by shootings have a car involved along with a gun. Heck, one could argue that the availability of a car causes MORE drive by shootings than just having an illegal weapon as the car gives the creep the means to carry out the crime. No car - maybe no shooting.

(How about 'dat' "mare" Daley - sue GM for your crime problem)

9 posted on 07/27/2005 12:04:04 PM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: neverdem
Sen. Larry E. Craig, Idaho Republican and the bill's sponsor.
 
Looks like we up here in the "woods" are gonna re-elect Larry for another term!
 
Good job Bubba, keep up the good work!   Now if he could just get the rest of the Pubbies to put forth some useful legislation, instead of running with their tails between their legs every time a DumbocRat says Boo! 

10 posted on 07/27/2005 12:05:45 PM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
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To: Condor51

it apprears democrats have given up trying to take our guns... for now.

they are also backpeddling on abortion...

we have em on the run boys !


11 posted on 07/27/2005 12:07:48 PM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: Texas_Conservative2
*** we have em on the run boys !***

I concur, it's good news.
I just thought the headline was a little 'off'.

12 posted on 07/27/2005 12:16:27 PM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: Texas_Conservative2

ONLY because their (Liberals) ranks are declining everytime they attempt to take our guns from us! Continue to vote them (Liberal Democrats) out of office, and we will not have to worry any longer about the issue!


13 posted on 07/27/2005 12:18:40 PM PDT by standing united (82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!)
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To: standing united
82nd ABN 1/508th BN Bco 1st Sqd. Alpha Fireteam Leader: "fury from the sky" 8-Duce on the Loose!!

82d Soldier Support BN (ABN)

HOOAH!


14 posted on 07/27/2005 12:29:28 PM PDT by rdb3 (You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think.)
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To: rdb3

Buy stock in SWB. Peoples is buyin guns!


15 posted on 07/27/2005 1:56:32 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanters..with a smiley face!)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us

As soon as S. 397 passes we need to push:

H.R. 2088, Veterans Heritage Firearms Act.

H.R. 1703, Second Amendment Restoration Act.

H.R. 1603, Fairness in Firearms Testing Act.

Text and discussion of each is available in the forums at http://at www.nfaoa.org


16 posted on 07/27/2005 5:06:38 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

"IS THIS THE SAME SWINE-STEIN WHO WAS CALLED A 'MODERATE' ON A SUPREME COURT THREAD YESTERDAY??'
Thank you
i cannot fathom why that Beast is considered a moderate! maybe by California standards but not real Americans!


17 posted on 07/27/2005 5:10:19 PM PDT by DM1
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18 posted on 07/28/2005 7:31:52 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: neverdem

Fingers crossed bump.


19 posted on 07/28/2005 7:33:38 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: neverdem
On Monday, the Lawful Commerce in Arms Act acquired a 60th Senate co-sponsor -- Sen. Robert C. Byrd, West Virginia Democrat.

What converted him away from the traditional Klan position (Gun Control: Because It's A Bitch To Clean Bloodstains Out Of White Sheets)?

20 posted on 07/28/2005 7:34:26 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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