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Iraq Wants Quick Withdrawal of U.S. Troops
Yahoo/ AP ^ | 7/27/2005 | Robert Burns

Posted on 07/27/2005 10:44:10 AM PDT by ex-Texan

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's transitional prime minister called Wednesday for a speedy withdrawal of U.S. troops and the top U.S. commander here said he believed a "fairly substantial" pullout could begin next spring and summer.

Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari said at a joint news conference with Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld that the time has arrived to plan a coordinated transition from American to Iraqi military control throughout the country.

Asked how soon a U.S. withdrawal should happen, he said no exact timetable had been set. "But we confirm and we desire speed in that regard," he said, speaking through a translator. "And this fast pace has two aspects."

First, there must be a quickening of the pace of U.S. training of Iraqi security forces, and second there must be closely coordinated planning between the U.S.-led military coalition and the emerging Iraq government on a security transition, he said.

"We do not want to be surprised by a withdrawal that is not in connection with our Iraqi timing,"' he said.

Speaking earlier with U.S. reporters traveling with Rumsfeld, Gen. George Casey, the top American commander in Iraq, said he believed a U.S. troop withdrawal could begin by spring 2006 if progress continues on the political front and if the insurgency does not expand.

Rumsfeld was planning to get a firsthand look at the training of Iraqi security forces by watching a demonstration by a group of Iraqi special forces soldiers using live ammunition at a training range run by American troops.

U.S. officials describe a variety of security forces being developed. Foremost is the Iraqi army, comprised mainly of infantry battalions, although there also are to be four tank battalions. The army now has about 77,000 soldiers, and it is scheduled to expand to about 85,000 by December. It includes "intervention forces," to lead the Iraqi effort against the insurgency.

There are now about 94,000 police, most for standard traffic and patrol work. That is to grow to about 145,000 by December, and it includes "special police" commando battalions as well as a mechanized police brigade that will be a paramilitary, counterinsurgency unit intended to deploy to high-risk areas using light armored personnel carriers.

The organization in charge of training and equipping Iraqi security forces is the Multinational Security Transition Command, headed by Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, who last week was announced by the Pentagon as the next commander of the Army's Combined Arms Center at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. He is to be replaced in Iraq by Maj. Gen. Martin Dempsey, who spent more than a year in Iraq as commander of the 1st Armored Division.

The effort to build a reliable Iraq security force has been slowed by a number of problems. One that can be traced to the earliest days of the U.S. military occupation was the virtual disintegration of the Iraqi army that existed when American troops invaded in March 2003. Some say this was made worse by the decision of L. Paul Bremer, the U.S. civilian administrator of Iraq starting in May 2003, to formally disband the Iraqi security forces.

Another problem has been infiltration of the security forces by insurgents. In its report to Congress last week, the Pentagon acknowledged that this remains a problem and it still is unable to say just how much infiltration there is, despite efforts to improve vetting of recruits.

Rumsfeld said en route to Iraq on Wednesday that Iraqi leaders must take a more aggressive stance against what he called harmful interference from neighboring Syria and Iran.

He said he would be pushing the Iraqis to provide more people who can be trained by U.S. personnel to handle the growing number of detainees in the country, now estimated to number at least 15,000.

With a permanent Iraqi government scheduled to take power in January, following adoption of a constitution and an election in December, they need trained prison guards "so that as soon as it is feasible we can transfer responsibility for Iraqi prisoners to the Iraqi government," he said.

Rumsfeld has often criticized Iran and Syria for meddling in Iraq's affairs. In his remarks Wednesday, he put the main onus on Iraqi leaders to do more to fix the problem.

"They need to be aggressively communicating with their neighbors to see that foreign terrorists stop coming across those borders and that their neighbors do not harbor insurgents and finance insurgents," he said in an in-flight interview with reporters accompanying him from Tajikistan.


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Of course, al-Jaafari's wishes may be delayed by more terror attacks. But then, perhaps not. There are more international news reports posted Here
1 posted on 07/27/2005 10:44:12 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: Old Sarge

Ping


2 posted on 07/27/2005 10:47:12 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: ex-Texan
Everyone wants our troops out of Iraq, but not until the job's done. All the MSM headlines make this sound like "Iraq wants US Troops Out NOW!" and that's not what they're saying.

On another note, I'd like to be one of the first to suggest organizing some parades and welcome home parties for our guys when they do start coming home. Just a little "thank you" for a job well done.
3 posted on 07/27/2005 10:50:07 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: ex-Texan; All
Posted Earlier Twice Here and Here but this one seems to have more info on it.
4 posted on 07/27/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: oldleft

Let's Super Size that "thank you".


5 posted on 07/27/2005 10:51:19 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: ex-Texan

This is tricky. Some may see it as Bush doing what he said he wouldn't: establishing a withdrawal schedule that would tell the insurgents how long to wait. But I see it as a message to non-insurgent Iraqis who are also unhappy about foreign (and non-Muslim) troops on their soil. The message is that we don't plan to take over their country, but plan to leave as soon as the situation is stabilized to the point where we are not needed, and we talk about when that might be if all goes well. But we don't really give a withdrawal plan like we did in Vietnam (or like Israel is doing with Gaza), a declaration that we are gone as of a certain date, regardless of the security situation at that time.


6 posted on 07/27/2005 10:51:33 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: ex-Texan

This is tricky. Some may see it as Bush doing what he said he wouldn't: establishing a withdrawal schedule that would tell the insurgents how long to wait. But I see it as a message to non-insurgent Iraqis who are also unhappy about foreign (and non-Muslim) troops on their soil. The message is that we don't plan to take over their country, but plan to leave as soon as the situation is stabilized to the point where we are not needed, and we talk about when that might be if all goes well. But we don't really give a withdrawal plan like we did in Vietnam (or like Israel is doing with Gaza), a declaration that we are gone as of a certain date, regardless of the security situation at that time.


7 posted on 07/27/2005 10:52:12 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: areafiftyone

Great tag line areafiftyone ! LOL, LOL, LOL !


8 posted on 07/27/2005 10:55:49 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: ex-Texan
I guess it all depends upon who you believe
The lame stream propagandists and their jihahdi pets or the Iraqi decent citizens and those who represent them.
9 posted on 07/27/2005 10:57:31 AM PDT by joesnuffy (The state always has solutions to the problems it creates...more freedom will never be a solution)
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To: ex-Texan

Thanks. Gotta change them often. I think this is a good idea ONLY if the Iraqi Soldiers are completely ready.


10 posted on 07/27/2005 10:59:12 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: ex-Texan
See ya.

Wouldn't want to be'ya.

Dig a hole.

Make that a whole lot of holes.
11 posted on 07/27/2005 10:59:44 AM PDT by mmercier (know of the things that are)
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To: ex-Texan
You know what is going to happen don't you? The Iraqi government is under pressure from outside and within Iraq to get the American occupiers out of the country. They will ask us to leave. As soon as we are out, all hell will break loose and the terrorist will go apesh$t. The there may be a civil war. Then the Dems, the same people that say we should not be there, will blame Bush, Rummy and Rice.

Before Bush pulls the troops out the Iraqis need to go before the UN and say they are ready to take over and ask all Coalition troops to leave the country.
12 posted on 07/27/2005 11:01:58 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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Iraq Wants Quick Withdrawal of U.S. Troops

Yeah? Well, how quick did they want Saddam out?

13 posted on 07/27/2005 11:06:23 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: ex-Texan

This is great news. I hope they grab it by the horns.


14 posted on 07/27/2005 11:09:34 AM PDT by Huck (Whatever.)
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To: Stirner
Some may see it as Bush doing what he said he wouldn't: establishing a withdrawal schedule that would tell the insurgents how long to wait.

Which I never understood anyway, because what's to stop them from just waiting until they see everyone leave? If they wanted to wait, they'd wait. They know we're gonna leave sometime.

15 posted on 07/27/2005 11:10:53 AM PDT by Huck (Whatever.)
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bump


16 posted on 07/27/2005 11:14:42 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Americanexpat

"As soon as we are out, all hell will break loose and the terrorist will go apesh$t."

Perhaps not in the way you envision it thought. When we leave, the Iraqi army and police are free to seek and destroy the terrorist and remaining Ba'athist and common criminals and other factions not often well defined, with brutal force. No mercy. They can put aside all the PC/human rights parts of their training by our guys and just crush all resistance. And no one can blame the US and other coalition forces for hurting some poor Iraqi misunderstood individual. I do hope you realize there are a gaining number of Iraqi military officers who are relentless in their pursuit to rid their country once and for all of all the resistive elements.


17 posted on 07/27/2005 11:14:58 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: ex-Texan

It will be anything but quick. Remember that its a GOVERNMENT operation (i.e. G.I.= Government Issue)


18 posted on 07/27/2005 11:15:47 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: ex-Texan

For extra effectiveness, let's route the withdrawal through Syria or Iran, or both.


19 posted on 07/27/2005 11:16:27 AM PDT by Argus
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To: ex-Texan
The Iraqis are well aware of the constraints put on our troops by world opinion. They are also aware that we don't want to be there any more than we have to be. When they ask us to leave, it will be as friends, and not as "occupiers" and it will be well known that if they need us, we'll be back.

When we go, there will not be civil war between the religions, but there may well be a war between the Iraqi people and the terrorists. We are housing thousands of terrorist prisoners. Once we are gone, there will be far fewer prisoners because they will be put on trial and executed according to Iraqi law and the UN will have nothing to say about it.

20 posted on 07/27/2005 11:26:01 AM PDT by McGavin999
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