Bush presses for CAFTA as DeLay predicts win

Reuters ^ | Jul 27, 2005

[U.H. Conservative]

America did not build walls because we had two oceans protecting us. As you have said, times have changed and those oceans do not afford us that protection any longer.

[U.H. Conservative]

Personal attacks. The sign of the weak argument.

[eleni121]

Personal attacks. The sign of the weak argument

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Not at all. It's the anti free trade types who exhibit signs of nativism in their arguments.

[U.H. Conservative]

1. Your original charge was anti-Catholocism, not nativism. If you are going to defame those who disagree with you, at least keep your slanders straight.

2. I am anti-free trade. I also, however, count the Church as a valuable institution in society. Like any institution run by humans, it is not perfect and should be criticized when necessary in order to help it keep to the standards to which it aspires. When done in a spirit of Christian fellowship and love, those criticisms are hardly anti-Catholic.

[eleni121]

I am anti-free trade

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So is Hillary Clinton.

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Your original charge was anti-Catholocism, not nativism.

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No difference. Anti Catholicism and anti immigrant has been part and parcel throughout most of of nativism's sordid history in the US. That is not to say pro free trade people approve of illegal immigration. Reforms are urgently needed (especially now that we are at war).

[U.H. Conservative]

na·tiv·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (nt-vzm)
n.
A sociopolitical policy, especially in the United States in the 19th century, favoring the interests of established inhabitants over those of immigrants.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Hey, in the dictionary definition of nativism, I don't see the term "anti-Catholic" anywhere. While some nativists were anti-Catholic, the terms are not synonymous. It would be kind of like me saying that because free trade supporters like Bernard Schwartz of Loral illegally sold technology to China, that all free traders are traitors.

Your use of overly broad generalizations weakens your argument. And since you say, apparently with a straight face, that the corruption of Mexico is comparable to that in New York, your arguments can't stand any weakening.

[eleni121]

The dictionary definition is cute.

The rest of it is just plain silly.

As for the what nativism has represented over the years - a distinct anti Catholic stench permeates.

[U.H. Conservative]

Fine. "As for the what [free trade] has represented over the years - a distinct [treasonous] stench permeates."

At least I'm being sarcastic. The sad thing is that you're not.