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To: motzman

Sorry, that's not working for me. This fellow's situation: I WAS a LEO in another state, and I'm no longer one, and I'm in a new state, but I want the old rules to apply in the new place? That is fairly tortured. If everything is as you say, I hope he gets a break--but it will derive literally on the mercy of the court, because on the law he is dead-bang guilty as charged.

How much of a deputy could he have been, BTW, to not know the law re guns? Or did he think he should be excepted, because he HAD BEEN a LEO?

And by the way, not to be provocative or snarky, but, as someone who's known a lot of cops, and had a few in the family: There is ALWAYS a story. I'm betting the one you recounted is not the whole thing.


57 posted on 07/27/2005 9:17:57 AM PDT by John Robertson (Safe Travel)
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To: John Robertson
And by the way, not to be provocative or snarky, but, as someone who's known a lot of cops, and had a few in the family: There is ALWAYS a story. I'm betting the one you recounted is not the whole thing.

Sorry it doesn't work for you.

The point is---this guy just got chewed up by the machine ($$$ for PTI, lawyers, etc) over NOTHING.

The other point is---there are so many laws that people break them without even knowing. You think that an ex-deputy from La. is going to read up on gun laws in NJ which are designed to be so byzantine and anti-common sense so people can be shaken down? I asked him that very question he said "I thought New Jersey was still in the United States of America"---oh, he was wrong! In fact, a few years ago, a player for the New York (Jersey) Jets was busted because he had a couple of hunting rifles in his SUV. See, where he came from, nobody thought twice about haveing a hunting rifle in their truck. But in New Jersey!?!? Didn't he get the memo?

This whole thread is about people trying to get old convictions expunged so they can better their lives--and the biggest problem is that people have records over stupid minor offenses that exist solely to keep the money flowing to the cops and government (did you know that the average Northern NJ cop makes well over $100k a year?) while keeping "the niggers" in their place.

I live within (long) walking distance to Paterson, NJ. Go there and see homies on the corner dealing drugs, ho's, whatever. Why? For many of them, when they were teens, they got busted on some minor drug rap. Now, they can't do anything else, so guess what happens?

And, when you live in this area, you always know a lot of cops. They're all over the place. How can you tell?---look for the fat guy with the stupid expression on his face driving a 40K car and living in a half million dollar house. That's our local fat-asses at work. Watch them pull over over every under 50 year old black driver who is stupid enough to drive through one of the rich towns in the area.

Now remember, my perceptions are probably quite different from yours, because you probably don't live in a police state like I do. Here's an example:

3 Summers ago, a friend of mine (who's a liscensed pyrotechinician, works for Grucci) wanted to buy some "regular" fireworks (not the heavy stuff) but since you can't in NJ, we decided to take a nice country drive out to Scranton, Pa., which is about an hour and a half from where I live. We went way out there, and I noticed something as we were driving back through Pa. I didn't see one cop the whole time driving to and from Scranton, once we got over the NJ/Pa border.

As soon as we got got back over the border, cops everywhere. State Troopers, Sherriffs, locals, it was unbelievable. I never noticed it before, but when I left the area and came back, it was like a slap in the face. Since I don't speed (anymore) and "generally" don't break laws (but how would I know for sure?--no one sent me the manual) it never really bothered me. Meanwhile, right under our noses in Paterson, Jersey City, and Newark, we have terrorsit cells actively trying to kill us, and the $%*#'n cops are writing traffic tickets, all day, every day.

The only reason I live in Jersey is because my work can only really be done in NYC.

Sorry for the rant!
73 posted on 07/27/2005 10:11:57 AM PDT by motzman (Verizon, the Hitler of phone companies)
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