[GravityFree]

Jeez, Rummy says the burn rate is 4 B-I-L-L-I-O-N dollars per month and what do we get . . . an Islamic constitution ?!?!? That and over 1,700 American lives is to high a price to pay to come clean up this place for the THIRD time 15 to 20 years from now. I'm hoping that Georgie Patton and Doug MacArthur are spinning so fast in their graves they will soon auger themselves out. Whatever happened to the concept of VICTORY ??? I don't want to hear anything about Arab or Islamic culture either. As inscrutable as the Japanese were a few decades of occupation turned them into good little capitalists ! ! !

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

^^^^^^^^^^^Whatever happened to the concept of VICTORY ???^^^^^^^^^

The fact that we're seriously talking about troop reductions is victory. We set up the democracy. They run it.

^^^^^^^^^As inscrutable as the Japanese were a few decades of occupation turned them into good little capitalists ! ! !^^^^^^^^

You're assuming the same won't happen in Iraq. Nostradamus, is that you?

I hope you aren't forgetting lebanon, afghanistan, egypt, and other nations in the area that are making strides in the correct direction. You don't think these are all just isolated incedents, do you?