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To: maica
The writer is hopelessly naive if he thinks that advances in medicine are going to end abortions.

Abortion is not about abortion, it is about responsibility-free sex. Gaining the freedom to have sex with an absolute guarantee it will not produce a baby was the biggest "advance" in centuries for a certain type of character. Those who value that "freedom" pretty much value it ABOVE ALL ELSE IN LIFE (and above all lives), though they will never express it that way out loud.

The entire Democratic Party is organized around legal abortion. If you fight to protect abortion they will simply tolerate any other behavior from you.

The Left will do WHATEVER IS NECESSARY to protect that freedom. For example, all the Left has to do is re-define the concept of "viability" -- which they are experts at, since no word is not living and evolving and emanating new penumbras by the second.

It's sad, in a way, to think that our society is polarizing into warring camps over the right to kill babies in their mothers.

23 posted on 07/27/2005 6:53:01 AM PDT by Taliesan (The power of the State to do good is the power of the State to do evil.)
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To: Taliesan

The entire Democratic Party is organized around legal abortion. If you fight to protect abortion they will simply tolerate any other behavior from you.


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Yes, and more and more people are recognizing that fact. As "pregnant couples" show off the first photo of their baby - still in the womb, the idea that it is something that is up to the mother to keep or discard, is becoming less tolerable.

Using power language and soundbites, like the dems do, we should stress the "ownership" of a fetus is like the "ownership" of a slave - which was ruled illegal by our same constitution.

As a corollary of this point, we can stress that it was the churches in America who started the Abolitionsit Movement. Devout churchgoers and preachers gave up their "right" to own slaves long before Lincoln came along.


Mia T's point is that because public opinion and technology are going to limit abortion in the future, fighting to overturn Roe v Wade should not fracture the conservative movement, thus allowing another Clinton to live in the White House.


31 posted on 07/27/2005 8:26:18 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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Abortion, and Roe in particular, has NEVER been about science. Science has been the excuse.

The talking point now is one of health. It is the upside down notion that abortion "saves life".

The abortion activists are not pushing the buzz words that parental notification is the really "parental involvement" and that "parental involvement" causes death because all families are disfunctional.

It is ALL based on anecdotes like all things on the left. No facts just political power aquisition.

When science has made artificial wombs and there is no longer a SCIENTIFIC reason for abortion, the abortion crowd will STILL demand abortion on demand.


32 posted on 07/27/2005 8:35:13 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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