[neverdem]

...Mr. Pataki, who has always been liberal on certain social issues, such as abortion rights and gun control,...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, Pataki campaigned in 1994 as if he was NOT a gun grabber! Maybe he was just a stealthy RINO.

[neverdem]

FReepmail me if you want on or off my New York ping list.

[zbigreddogz]

Pataki started out great, and has went downhill since 2002.

Anyhow, it doesn't matter.

Here is the situation in a nutshell:

Rudy runs = Governor Giulliani.

Rudy doesn't run = Governor Spitzer.

It's that simple.

[Vaquero]

yes Wacky Pataki was pro gun by cracky!....till he got to his 2nd term...then this Jackalope completely alienated us 2nd ammendment true believers. This is after the NRA supplied "Support Freedom, elect Patatki" bumper stickers. time for me to resurrect an old posting comment on Pataki: "Believe it or not, lovers of liberty, the constitution and more specifically the 2nd amendment were better off under Cuomo. For the first 2 of his 3 winning election, I received pro Pataki literature from the NRA including "Support Freedom, Elect Pataki" bumper stickers. Cuomo being a dyed in the wool anti gunner. Funny thing happened in his second term....Pataki turned on his constituency and proposed and received draconian gun bills that layered more repression upon us already repressed NY gun owners. Previously when Mr. Cuomo would propose like measures, he would receive backing of the Democrat assembly, but the upstate dominant Republican state senate would stone wall his attempts leaving them in limbo. Of course with their own boy in the governors mansion, the State Senate shooed these awful bills into law. Last election I voted for the third party clown Galisano as my protest vote. The democrat candidate would have at least elicited gridlock....far better than what we got with Pataki. Pataki for president???? not as standard barer of the Republican party...never happened never will....(and that goes for Rudy too)"

[PzLdr]

Re: The title. You can't forgo what you had no chance of winning.

Re: Pataki:.He's a pro-abortion, anti-gun political hack, who sold his soul, and the state Treasury to the unions to win his last re-election. [Never vote for a Republican endorsed by the Teachers' and Public Service Employees' unions]. Pataki's Stealth Assault Gun ban was WORSE than Clinton's [If grandfathered in, you could own your weapons, but could not sell, or transfer them]. The Assault Gun ban in the Legislature now [sponsored in the Senate by a Republican, no less] is MUCH worse. Good riddance to bad rubbish. And by the bye, Rudy Giuliani is also anti-gun, pro-abortion and pro Gay rights, so even if he runs against Spitzer, New York will uphold its tradition of giving voters the illusion of a choice, and the choice of an illusion.