Tancredo talk too offensive? Too bad.

World Net Daily ^ | July 23, 2005 | Radio Interview/Campbell

[MaineVoter2002]

The media wont report the story...NYC is the center of the nation's media

[montag813]

I thank God, that we did not have this type of mental disease in WW2. Gee, Mr. Truman, if we drop on bomb on Hiroshima and kill and injure over 100,000 INNOCENTS, without us losing one man, WHAT WILL THE GLOBAL STANDPOINT BE?

Before we even nuked them, General LeMay led incendiary attacks which decimated civilian populations...100,000 killed in Tokyo in a single evening. It was horrible. But it was neccessary. It was the right thing to do. It is very frustrating that so many FReepers don't get what we are facing with the Islamist terror threat.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

The Tancredo option would make Muhammad a liar:

KORAN [9.28] O you who believe! the idolaters are nothing but unclean, so they shall not approach the Sacred Mosque [Mecca, the Kaaba] after this year; and if you fear poverty then Allah will enrich you out of His grace if He please; surely Allah is Knowing Wise.

THIS IS NOT FROM AL-QAEDA!

THIS IS JUST A BIT OF WHAT ALL MUSLIMS, INCLUDING SO-CALLED MODERATES, SIGN UP FOR WHEN THEY SAY THE BISMALLAH, "THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH AND MUHAMMAD IS HIS PROPHET"!

KORAN [3.28] Let not the believers take the unbelievers for friends rather than believers; and whoever does this, he shall have nothing of (the guardianship of) Allah, but you should guard yourselves against them, guarding carefully; and Allah makes you cautious of (retribution from) Himself; and to Allah is the eventual coming.

KORAN [4.34] Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

KORAN [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

KORAN [9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair [Ezra] is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:176] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:177] Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:56:791] Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6981] Ibn 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You will fight against the Jews and you will kill them until even a stone would say: Come here, Muslim, there is a Jew (hiding himself behind me); kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6982] Ubaidullah has reported this hadith with this chain of transmitters (and the Words are):
"There is a Jew behind me."

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6983] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
You and the Jews would fight against one another until a stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; come and kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6984] Abdullah b. 'Umar reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said:
The Jews will fight against you and you will gain victory over them until the stone would say: Muslim, here is a Jew behind me; kill him.

HADITH Sahih Muslim [41:6985] Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying:
The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

HADITH Sahih Bukhari [4:52:283] Narrated Abu Juhaifa:
I asked Ali, "Do you have the knowledge of any Divine Inspiration besides what is in Allah's Book?" 'Ali replied, "No, by Him Who splits the grain of corn and creates the soul. I don't think we have such knowledge, but we have the ability of understanding which Allah may endow a person with, so that he may understand the Qur'an, and we have what is written in this paper as well." I asked, "What is written in this paper?" He replied, "(The regulations of) blood-money, the freeing of captives, ******** and the judgment that no Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel." *********

HADITH Sunan Abu Dawud [14:2526] Narrated Anas ibn Malik:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist). The tyranny of any tyrant and the justice of any just (ruler) will not invalidate it. One must have faith in Divine decree.

KORAN: http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/
HADITH: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

[dljordan]

"I thought it was taboo to discuss politics on shortwave."

You wouldn't believe the things you hear on shortwave. I've been listening since 1958.

[montag813]

Does China have oil? Because if anybody nukes the part of the world where we get our oil...we may be at China's mercy

No major pipelines run through either Mecca or Medina...by design. Tactical nukes will destroy all this crap with ease, without affecting the oil resources.

[MaineVoter2002]

But after we destroy their religious center you think they will just continue to sell us oil?

[FierceDraka]

Who said it would be bombed when full of people? We could give them 24 hours to evacuate it.

I disagree. Defcon 1 IMMEDIATELY.

No warnings. Multiple SLBM's carrying MIRV's, launched from an Ohio-class boomer from the Med or the Indian Ocean.

Mecca and Medina - gone in 5 minutes.

[montag813]

But after we destroy their religious center you think they will just continue to sell us oil?

One consequence of a Mecca nuke is that there will no longer be a nation called Saudi Arabia. The United States would have to administer the oil with a coaltion of allies.

[ThermoNuclearWarrior]

"He has befriended her parents who allowed her to go to a foreign country with irresponsible chaperone's."

She was 18 and the chaperone's did all they were suppose to do. They weren't suppose to be falling these people around 24 hours a day. The girl was dumb for going with those guys but she was a legal adult who is responsible for her actions.

[montag813]

Mecca and Medina - gone in 5 minutes.

We will need at least 24 hours to drop millions of pounds of raw bacon on those cities before nuking, to ensure none of them ever get their 72 virgins.

[MaineVoter2002]

I was listening to a local conaservative radio show today. Callers who supported Tancredo in the past seem to be dropping like flies. One said "he's a recipe for WW3. The oil would no longer be ours to buy and our economy would shatter"
It's a shame because we need somebody who will deport illegals and many of his supporters are now thinking twice. I would be surprised if he even makes it in the primaries. Sometimes it's best NOT to say your intentions until after you're in the White House.
Not just the USA uses oil in this world...and we are NOT the only ones that have nukes these days. China uses a lot of oil and would nuke us in a minute to get it.

[VictoryGal]

> I'll take red meat over the SPAM that's coming out of the White House these days.

Word. This is not politics. This is survival.

[MaineVoter2002]

Unfortunately I dont think we would have a coaltion of allies if we nuked Mecca. 10% of France is Muslim, Thailand has its own problems with Islam...the Arab community would be burning down cities around the world...nobody would join our coaltion of allies even if they secretly accepted our nuking Mecca and they would not even secretly accept our nuking Mecca because they still think we were wrong nuking Japan.

[kublia khan]

following

[MaineVoter2002]

What Tancredo should have said is that if we are attacked with a nuke...we will nuke the country that is responsible for selling it to the terrorists. We can nuke Mecca...but Iran (or North Korea) or some other rogue nation will continue to give out their nukes to Al Qaeda.

[MaineVoter2002]

ofcourse we are also dealing with suicidal loonies that want to meet their 72 Virgins. They would take it more as a promise than a threat. Only the nation's leaders would be concerned and they are in the capital

[VictoryGal]

> Ah, yes. FNC. The Natalee Holloway Channel. Jeez.

Thank you. One blond girl is more important than the future of Western Civilization. Makes sense to me!

(not)

[ThermoNuclearWarrior]

"But after we destroy their religious center you think they will just continue to sell us oil?"

We could just take over the Saudi oil fields.

[JakeSladder]

After the evacuation, have our flyboys swoop in and grab their stupid rock, and drop it off somewhere in the backyard of Red China.

[Publius6961]

Notice that the reaction from Hugh Hewitt, the White House, the State Department, Michael Medved, al Qaeda and CAIR, and the terrorists themselves are almost identical verbatim?

Now that's stupid, counterproductive, baffling and makes one go Hmmmmmmmm.

It's as if simultaneous press releases about a Japanese victory in the Pacific were all written by the same enemy propagandist.