[The KG9 Kid]

All ValerieUSA was saying is that if you're 'transgendered' but still biologically male, and choose to have sex with straight men and not tell them, there's going to be issues.

Yes, these killers should be held accountable. Let's see the prosecution prove their case first. They chose 1st Degree Murder as the charge, and the jury couldn't agree.

Why don't you just let it go at that, Michael?

[Paul C. Jesup]

The KG9 Kid: They chose 1st Degree Murder as the charge, and the jury couldn't agree.

If, to paraphase Michael.SF; several guys crushed his skull with a frying pan, drove his head through a wall, dragged his body to a garage, tied him up, beat him to death, wrapped him in sheets, then put him into a trunk, driving him 150 miles to bury him in a shallow grave, does not warrant 1st Degree Murder, what does?

Personally, I would have added torture to their list of crimes.

[Michael.SF.]

I read through about half of your referenced link and note that it does not conflict with anything that I stated in regards to the commission of the crime. Based on the jury instructions, the jury had to rule unanimously, one way or the other against first degree before even considering the other charges.

That seems a bit absurd on the face of it, but I am not a lawyer. Based on some of the comments here, many are willing to let these guys walk. That is also absurd.

Surely you cannot argue that a crime was not committed?