Relatives, Friends Mount Protest Over Killing of Brazilian in Britain

AP ^ | AP-ES-07-25-05 1642EDT

[Fido969]

This is organized by the left. Missing from the story are the professional lefties who are acting as "spokesmen" for the family, etc. What, you think that these protestors were just average people minding their own business who suddenlty decided to protest?

If conservatives tried to pull a stunt like this the media would clearly describe the thing as "staged by far-right activists".

But, for left political theater - they are always content telling only half the story.

[Little Ray]

My sympathy for the guy is officially ended. Can we do de Souza, too?

[caisson71]

Yes. Nothing eases the pain line a chunk of money administered in one dose.

[untrained skeptic]

"They did not do the right thing (cops) they did not do the wrong thing they did a rash thing in the midst of a war, and shit happens. V's wife."

I disagree. They did the right thing. The were trying to apprehend a person they though very well might be carrying a bomb with the intent to blow up innocent people.

If I understand the facts correctly, he fled the police rather than surrender when confronted.

They couldn't let him get away if they though he was going to blow people up.

If they weren't able to apprehend him without a struggle and they though he was carrying a bomb, they had to kill him before he could set off the bomb and kill everyone around.

Police are not psychics. They can only make decisions based on the information available, and it seems like based on that information that they made the right decision.

Is it justice that a man was killed for fleeing and struggling with the police? No. However, if you want a just result, you need to give the police a chance to make informed decisions. Fleeing and struggling rather than complying does not give them that chance, and they have to make decisions on which people's lives are dependent based on limited knowledge.

This is why you don't have the right to disobey the lawful orders of police officers here in the US. The police may be making a mistake in arresting you, but that can be worked out with the help of a lawyer. It's better to need a lawyer than a coroner.

[IronJack]

I salute the protestors ... with one raised finger.

[taxesareforever]

"What happened to English justice and England, a place where police patrol unarmed?"

Guess you haven't heard that there is a war on terror. Also, maybe you want to tell all your friends and relatives what "stop in the name of the law" means.

[litehaus]

Yep. I understand the loser pays over in GB. Illegal ALien runs from police and gets shot? Lettum sue!

[TheOtherOne]

It's better to need a lawyer than a coroner.

As the saying goes, it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[July 4th]

maybe you want to tell all your friends and relatives what "stop in the name of the law" means.

Or perhaps the police need to learn how to say that phrase in 15 different languages, first in Portuguese. Not.

[OnRightOnLeftCoast]

Exactly!

Damned if you do, damned if you don't from the hand-wringer Leftist bunch.

All mouth, no solution.

All ten-gallon hats--no cattle.

[montag813]

I too am outraged!!!

What kind of a world do we live in when a man can't go into a subway system which was bombed twice in 2 weeks, leap over a turnstile, and run from police with guns drawn, when they tell him to stop?

I mean how far do we allow the requirement to obey the law to go? Pretty soon we will stop people from wearing suicide belts into subways. It doesn't mean they will explode them! the police have just gone too far!

[bigmac0707]

They did the rational thing, which in this case was also the wrong thing. You can't blame them for acting rationally, but it led to the killing of a (somewhat) innocent person-- which is unambiguously wrong. A tragic mistake, but an understandable one.

[LibSnubber]

"Has anyone actually protested the killing of 50+ innocent people on July 7?"

No, because people are AFRAID of the terrorists; Blair, Bush, America, etc. are easy targets for protest because people know not a d*mn thing will happen to them if they protest us.

[montag813]

Has anyone actually protested the killing of 50+ innocent people on July 7?

Nope, just a stupid silent vigil in Trafalgar Square, when a proper "protest" would have been an angry march through London, burning 50 mosques to the ground...one for every person murdered...with a promise to do the same if any more attacks occur.

[Rodney King]

Nope, just a stupid silent vigil in Trafalgar Square, when a proper "protest" would have been an angry march through London, burning 50 mosques to the ground...one for every person murdered...with a promise to do the same if any more attacks occur.

Right on.

And why is it that we here from this Brazilian guy's family, but I have yet to see articles about what all the brothers and cousins of any of the victims of the train bombings have to say?

[Former Fetus]

"What happened to [...]England, a place where police patrol unarmed?"

7/7/05
Doesn't this guy read the newspapers?

[OnRightOnLeftCoast]

Police are not psychics. They can only make decisions based on the information available, and it seems like based on that information that they made the right decision.

A classic Catch-22 occupation: Action vs. inaction.

Taking a life is an awesome decision and made worse when faced with a split-second 'moment.' It is not a time for hesitation, second-guessing, and 'what if's.'

Unofficially some adhere to: "Better to be judged by 12, then carried by 6."

[montag813]

And why is it that we here from this Brazilian guy's family, but I have yet to see articles about what all the brothers and cousins of any of the victims of the train bombings have to say?

Yep. The global media is transfixed by this Brazilian turnstile-jumping imbicile, who ran when police--with guns drawn--told him to stop. Are they really shocked at how the terror-beseiged police responded to this dope?

And yep, as expected, the media has "move on" from the London bombing victims, as they always do.

[daddypatriot]

Mr. de Menezes can be said to have committed suicide. You commit suicide when police with guns drawn order you to stop. This poor sap, who reportedly was living in England with an expired visa, had to learn his lesson the hard way. If I am ever around police with weapons at the ready and they say stop and hit the dirt I will do it so fast a mushroom cloud will rise up.

[montag813]

Mr. de Menezes can be said to have committed suicide

Yes, they call it Suicide by Police, but don't tell it to his "outraged" family.