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Al Qaeda Threatens Rome, Berlusconi Personally Addressed
Debkafile ^ | July 25, 2005 | Diane Shalem

Posted on 07/25/2005 1:42:50 PM PDT by gopwinsin04

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To: Stellar Dendrite
Heeeeee!Pelican!Pelican!Pelican!

(They were flamingoes). But very funny.

41 posted on 07/25/2005 2:41:39 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: maestro

I think you are correct. More likely Milan than Rome. Hopefully neither.


42 posted on 07/25/2005 2:44:53 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers (Freud was wrong. It's all about "Roe v. Wade")
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To: gopwinsin04
That graphic is literally indisputable. And we all know what appeasement accomplishes with fanatics, back then and presently.
43 posted on 07/25/2005 2:47:47 PM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: gopwinsin04
Berlusconi should make an announcement...if Italy is attacked, one mosque will be burned to the ground for every Italian citizen killed, and a promise to bury all bomber remains with pig entrails.

Call it "Tancredo Lite".

44 posted on 07/25/2005 2:51:48 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Question Liberal Authority
"I don't doubt you, but the Vatican would be a horrible target. The Vatican has zero soldiers in Iraq and officially opposed the Iraq war. Hitting them might give some people the wacky idea that you can't appease a terrorist..."

Anyone who hasn't learned that lesson from Al Qaeda's recent attacks in Egypt, Syria, Turkey, and the Phillipines isn't going to learn it from an attack on the Vatican, either.

Some people simply insist upon living in ignorance.

45 posted on 07/25/2005 2:53:33 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: gopwinsin04

Go ahead and blow up the Vatican, and you'll find out what "jihad" really means.


46 posted on 07/25/2005 2:54:40 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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To: satchmodog9
"Time to take the lead from the English and shoot first. Turn Mecca and Riyadh into glass and work our way through the rest of the vipers nests."

I agree. For every threat, flatten one mosque.

47 posted on 07/25/2005 2:55:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: gopwinsin04
Wait and see who looks for relief by running to the left.
It won't be long then before problems keep popping up such as influence and then dominance by these new masters.
Time is now to go and stand up, crying for help later is futile.
Socialism is not an answer.
Their entire culture is at risk.
48 posted on 07/25/2005 3:18:29 PM PDT by hermgem
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To: little jeremiah
That is an uncalled for comment.

No it isn't. The pope can cry out about the tradegy of the deaths in Britain, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq. But not a single word on the deaths of Jews. Don't you find that odd?

49 posted on 07/25/2005 3:26:33 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Lady In Blue

Didn't the Romans LOOT the Temple ???


50 posted on 07/25/2005 3:31:02 PM PDT by crowman
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To: crowman

Yes, they did.

And i'm not happy with the pope ignoring the attacks in Israel either.


51 posted on 07/25/2005 3:47:30 PM PDT by Andrew LB (Another solder in the fight against liberalism.)
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To: gopwinsin04

where's the MOB when you really need them....


53 posted on 07/25/2005 4:04:57 PM PDT by fhlh (.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

..........................................

54 posted on 07/25/2005 4:11:10 PM PDT by SJackson (On the second try, I got that jug off [the bear's head], but then I had a bear tied to a tree)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Tony Montana in the house!


55 posted on 07/25/2005 4:13:17 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04
20,000 in farewell to Italian 'martyr'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1358260/posts

"Calipari Shooting: Anger in Italy Simmers over US Attack in Iraq"
Der Spiegel
By Alexander Smoltczyk in Rome
Excerpt:
"Following the tragic death of secret service agent Nicola Calipari, Italian leftists found themselves for the first time ever before the hated "Altar of the Fatherland," as the monument to Vittorio Emmanuele in Rome is known. Former neo-fascists sat side-by-side with Maoists. The neo-communist Fausto Bertinotti even went so far as to refer to Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi aa a "good politician" after Berlusconi, in a fit of rage, summoned US Ambassador to Italy Melvin Sembler and demanded an explanation for Calipari's shooting."

News for Arab Countries
[From the Italian government News Agency.]

Special service by AGI on behalf of the Italian Prime Minister's office
http://www.agi.it/english/news.pl?doc=200503101840-1239-RT1-CRO-0-NF51&page=0&id=agionline-eng.arab

Excerpt:
SGRENA: FORMIGONI, "GOVT DID WELL, ANY MEANS IS GOOD" (AGI) - Milan, March 10 - "The government did a good job, 'cause when it comes to saving a life, any means is justifiable, including paying a ransom". Thus said the regional governor of Lombardy, Roberto Formigoni, commenting on the government's efforts to free reporter Giuliana Sgrena. In spite of Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini's statements yesterday during talk show 'Porta a porta' that no ransom was paid, Mr Formigoni said that "ransoms are only justifiable under exceptional circumstances. In any other case, alternative solutions should be pursued". (AGI) -


Today in Italy
Special service by AGI on behalf of the Italian Prime Minister's office

SGRENA: BIANCO, WAITING FOR ANSWERS ON POSSIBLE RANSOM
(AGI) - Rome, March 8 - The parliamentary committee controlling secret services and security services "has not yet received answers" by the government on the possible payment of a ransom for the liberation of Giuliana Sgrena, stated Enzo Bianco, committee president, at the microphones of "Radio anch'io". "The fact that Italy could have paid a ransom is a very delicate topic, talked and written about by media, but we are not sure that this really happened. Certainly in Italy the choice not to pay ransoms was a winning choice against the phenomenon of kidnapping for the purpose of extortion, particularly serious during the 70ies, but Baghdad is a completely different reality, Italy is united in undertaking any possible step to free possible hostages".


More information...

Berlusconi's Casa delle Libertà (House of Freedoms) includes Forza Italia and the Alleanza Nazionale (National Alliance). Only the Northern League (Lega Nord) broke off from the Casa delle Libertà.

From explanation Guide

Forza Italia is an Italian political party. It is headed by Silvio Berlusconi who also is Prime Minister of Italy.

It was formed in 1993 by Berlusconi, a successful businessman. At the head of an alliance, the Casa delle Libertà it gained office in the 1994 elections, but lost power when the northern separatist Lega Nord left the coalition. It regained power in the 2001 elections, with the League's support.

A rough translation of its name is "Come on Italy!". From explanation Guide

Casa delle Libertà, or House of Freedoms in English, is an Italian right-wing party alliance, composed of Forza Italia, Alleanza Nazionale and Lega Nord (Northern League), led by Silvio Berlusconi.

The alliance won the 1994 elections, but the resulting government was short lived since the Northern League broke free and went to opposition.

After a 5-year left-wing government, Berlusconi managed to cool down the hotheads of the League, and won the elections again (2001), this time with a stable government. It sought to undermine the proportionality rules of the Italian Additional Member System of elections by running many of its constituency candidates under a decoy list called Abolizione Scorporo, a title which explicity stated its opposition to the counting rules; its tactic largely worked because it had more support than the left-wing Olive Tree (Ulivio) alliance.

In 2003 it was routed in local elections by the Olive Tree alliance, and the League has threatened to pull out of the House of Freedoms. "Berlusconi Ally Sentenced to 9 Yrs in Mafia Trial"
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=732&e=3&u=/nm/20041211/wl_nm/crime_italy_mafia_dc
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299226/posts

"Berlusconi told to face up to US over shooting"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/03/07/whost07.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/03/07/ixworld.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1357411/posts

Excerpt:

From within Mr Berlusconi's centre-Right coalition, Gianni Alemanno, the agriculture minister, spoke out, saying: "Italy must defend its honour.

"We may be trusted allies, but we cannot give the impression of being subordinate."

Bobo Craxi, an ally, and the son of the late premier Bettino Craxi, attacked Mr Berlusconi's "subordinacy" to the US.

He demanded that he stand up to Mr Bush, "even to the point of risking a break in relations", as his father had done to President Reagan in 1985, when he refused to hand over Palestinian terrorists to America.

Berlusconi cleared of corruption http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4084717.stm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1298720/posts
(several trials about various allegations over time, and some of his former associates went to prison)
56 posted on 07/25/2005 4:16:13 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Tony Montana in the house!

"I keel a communist for fun!"

"Say goodnight to the bad guy!"


57 posted on 07/25/2005 4:30:56 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (islamofascism, like socialism must be eradicated from the face of this earth)
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To: livius
Actually, I don't think they'd dare take out the Vatican. For some reason, they still haven't made any strikes on specifically Catholic targets, and I think they're actually afraid to do so....I think they know that if they do that, all bets are off. There will be no more "religion of peace" talk from naive Catholics or clueless world leaders, and the battle lines will be drawn.

Didn't stop them from attacking the US. And they've been attacking France, a Catholic country, for a couple decades with no ill effect. Noting happened when they attacked Spain.

I don't disagree with you, if no one else paid attention, Americans would, but you can't assume the Islamists see it that way. They're on a roll.

58 posted on 07/25/2005 4:41:17 PM PDT by SJackson (On the second try, I got that jug off [the bear's head], but then I had a bear tied to a tree)
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To: pbrown; DianeDePoitiers

Until I verify each and every public comment [because we won't know about the private ones] the Pope makes about each and every terrorist act, I can't know for certain what he said or didn't say. There are so many other possibilities - he didn't read about it or wasn't told about it, made a statement and it didn't get publicized, it was publicized and you and Diane didn't read it [are you really sure and certain that you read every single public statement issued by the Vatican in the Pope's name?].

Whatever the Pope is, he is not anti-Semitic, but it certainly sounds as though you two are anti-Catholic.


59 posted on 07/25/2005 5:04:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: SJackson
A lot of people think the terrorists wouldn't dare attack the Vatican. Why not? They can attack anywhere they want, they answer to no government or world leaders. If they could destroy the Vatican, kill the Pope, slaughter innocent Christians, who will answer for the deed?. We catch these scum and put them on trial and some countries release them back into the pond like gold fish, forget
ting these are terrorists are more like Piranha. Who are we going to hold accountable?

Muslim extremists support this terrorism from the pulpits and funnel money into their nank accounts with impunity.

How can we in the west fight fight a war on terrorism when conservatives and liberals can't agree on a frigging policy to do it. How can we fight to save the western civilization and religious culture when Christian and Jews, who are both the target of Muslim terrorism, can't get along? You can see that divisiveness right here on FR.
60 posted on 07/25/2005 5:14:51 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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