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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9
Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat

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Aruban authorities draining lake

MARGARET WEVER Associated Press

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Aruban firefighters were draining a lake Tuesday in the search for an Alabama teenager who vanished nearly two months ago while vacationing in the island.

Edwin Comemencia, a police spokesman, confirmed that the draining of the lake across from the Marriott Hotel was part of the investigation into Natalee Holloway's disappearance but would not comment further. A jailed Dutch youth has said he was with Holloway in the area the night she disappeared.

The draining was expected to take up to 24 hours.

Earlier Tuesday, Holloway's stepfather, George Twitty, said two new witnesses had come forward with information about the night she disappeared.

One witness told investigators that he saw Joran van der Sloot, the 17-year-old who has been detained as the main suspect, driving to a nightclub across the road from the Marriott Hotel around 2:30 a.m. the night Holloway disappeared, Twitty said.

The witness said van der Sloot tried to hide his face with his hands as he drove to the Racquet Club with two Surinamese brothers, Satish and Deepak Kalpoe, Twitty said. The Kalpoe brothers were detained as suspects and later released.

The stepfather said the account places the three individuals near the hotel beach where van der Sloot says he left 18-year-old Holloway alone the last night she was seen in public.

"What's interesting is the time - 2:30 a.m. - when the three were supposedly on their way home," said Twitty, referring to their previous accounts to investigators.

The witness, a gardener whose name was not disclosed, gave his account to investigators on Friday, Twitty said.

The Kalpoe brothers first told police that they and van der Sloot dropped Holloway at her hotel around 2 a.m. the morning of May 30. Later, they said they had lied to protect their friend and that they had dropped the Dutch youth and American teen at a beach near the hotel.

A second new witness told a private investigator hired by Holloway's family that she saw van der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers drive into the Racquet Club three times that same night. The woman, who lives near the nightclub, has not yet spoken with investigators, he said.

Aruban authorities did not comment on the stepfather's statements.

An attorney for van der Sloot, Richie Kock, said authorities had not told him about the new witnesses. Lawyers for the Kalpoe brothers were not immediately available for comment.

No one has been charged in the case, and van der Sloot is the only suspect still detained.

Holloway vanished after an evening of eating, drinking and dancing at a nightclub which she left with the three young men, hours before she was to catch a flight home to Mountain Brook, Ala., at the end of a graduation trip with 124 classmates.

1,041 posted on 07/26/2005 5:30:33 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: truthluva

hcgtv.com / xfiles / 2005-06
Paul Van Der Sloot is now being viewed as a suspect in the case of Natalee ...
also revealed Paul had staggering amounts of money in 13 bank accounts around ...
hcgtv.com/archive/9/2005-6 - 36k - Cached - Similar pages

People with nothing to hide hide nothing

Posted by: seedyrum | July 26, 2005 06:43 PM


1,043 posted on 07/26/2005 5:32:06 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: truthluva

The now-closed Lebanon, Tenn. Military Academy:
http://www.castleheights.com/

I saw it on RWV.


1,044 posted on 07/26/2005 5:32:20 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: monkeywrench

Staggering amounts of money in 13 bank accounts????


Now, my word, where did all that money come from? Interesting if true, very very interesting!!


1,045 posted on 07/26/2005 5:36:24 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat; All

Everything is falling into place now - this why they are hot on this lead because it fits into something he told LE and he knows that area well.

Not to down play the Kalpoes guilt once again. But maybe Joran still did this by himself. The brothers may have came and picked him up and that is why they were seen there in the car together at the Racquet Ball Club, this was the pick-up point. They could have been planning the story up at this point in the car and Joran may have reminded them that Natalee was last seen getting into the Kalpoe car. I think Joran was smart enough to fool these 2 brothers into thinking that the brothers would never be believed since Joran's father is a judge (everyone on the island thought he was going to be a judge and word was not out yet that he failed his finals)

So Joran is muddy (explains the loss of the shoes) and he gets this mud in Deepaks car and that is why the late night car washing (the mud). Not sure why he let Joran drive but maybe Joran was cool headed and Deepak was not. Deepak seems to be easily spooked and Joran does not. Another thing is wash the car at a car wash and spray Joran legs off also.


1,046 posted on 07/26/2005 5:36:59 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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What is surprising to me is that Natalee's family members don't seem to know or have not been told the things that the media talking heads are telling them.

Nancy Grace just asked Natalee's aunt if she was aware that Joran had stated that Deepak had raped and murdered Natalee. The aunts response was no.

Also the Alabama reporter stated that she had not heard this either and said that it may not be credible.

However Jossy responded that he knew that this was true and he knew that 4 ALE officers had signed the statement.

Also NG questioned Jossy and his sources.

1,048 posted on 07/26/2005 5:39:16 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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Wow...must be a pretty good poker player.


1,049 posted on 07/26/2005 5:39:45 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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To: cajungirl

I saw it posted on RW. seedyrum has posted there for quite awhile.


1,050 posted on 07/26/2005 5:39:55 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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What was he doing with all that money, if true? Thought I heard the "rumor" that Paulus had a gambling problem?

I know! He hit a Slot progressive Jackpot!! (Sarcasm off)..

sw

1,051 posted on 07/26/2005 5:39:57 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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Thanks!


1,052 posted on 07/26/2005 5:40:05 PM PDT by truthluva ("Character is doing the right thing even when no one is looking" - JC Watts)
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He must be, as someone on SM said joran has 5 lawyers.


1,053 posted on 07/26/2005 5:40:39 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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Where was the car washing seen at? I figured at a drive up and spray car wash... but was he seen at his home cleaning up the car?


1,054 posted on 07/26/2005 5:40:43 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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Natalee's aunt

Was that Natalee's aunt or Robin Holloway?

1,055 posted on 07/26/2005 5:42:36 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: countryconservative

Why would JvdS drive?

Being a member he knew his way to and from, and around the racquet club.


1,056 posted on 07/26/2005 5:42:36 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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yes... but after 22 versions from Joran - Laying the finger on Deepak of course would come into play. Jossy is just verifying that Joran did make a statement that blamed Deepak for Natalee's death.

And here again Joran is saying she is dead.


1,057 posted on 07/26/2005 5:44:21 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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Pond will take 3-5 hrs to drain per JM.


1,058 posted on 07/26/2005 5:44:24 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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I think his mother said something about it? - I can't remember where I learned this at and yes it might another rumor.


1,059 posted on 07/26/2005 5:45:30 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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