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Canada: Imam warns Ottawa to back off Muslims
Globe and Mail ^ | 07/25/05 | COLIN FREEZE

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:06:10 AM PDT by Pikamax

A controversial Toronto imam warned Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan at a closed-door meeting to stop "terrorizing" Canadian Muslims.

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control," Aly Hindy, the head of Scarborough's Salaheddin Islamic Centre, recalls telling the minister at the May meeting she held in Toronto with dozens of Muslim leaders.

The meeting was part of an effort by Ms. McLellan to reach out to Canadian Muslims amid complaints that the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service are engaging in racial profiling.

The minister and her officials have been meeting community leaders to explain they are not targeting Muslims generally, only individuals with possible terrorist links.

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By many accounts, the meetings have been positive and are contributing to a thaw in relations between Muslims and security agents, even if the exchange in May was a little heated.

Mr. Hindy, who has long complained that CSIS is spying on him, his family and his mosque, told Ms. McLellan that a young Muslim woman complained to him she was roughed up by Canadian spies while her husband was away at prayers. This allegation could spur reprisals because "our women are the most valuable thing to us" and "for a Muslim, honour is more important than his life," Mr. Hindy said in a recent interview.

He made the point to the minister. Several people who attended shrugged off the imam's remarks, but some Muslims and government agents later approached Mr. Hindy asking him to explain himself.

"The police came to me and said, 'This is a kind of threat,' and I said yes," he said. "But it's for the good of this country.

"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

While government investigators probing the woman's complaint told Mr. Hindy they have not found evidence of wrongdoing, he isn't giving the spy service the benefit of the doubt.

"We believe CSIS should stop terrorizing us," he says in a flyer he is circulating to mosques. "CSIS is powerless. CSIS has no authority over you. If CSIS agents come to your door, do not open [it] for them."

Toronto's Coalition of Muslim Organizations arranged the meeting, and said about 100 Muslim leaders attended. While COMO president Adam Esse noted that, "some people, when they talk, they get a little heated," he said the ministerial visit was "a sign of respect" and was worthwhile overall. "If you talk, you remove a lot of misconceptions, a lot of misunderstandings."

A spokesman for Ms. McLellan agreed. "We feel it was constructive, positive," Alex Swann said.

Even Mr. Hindy said that despite his differences with security agencies "the Deputy Prime Minister, she was very understanding."

In the wake of the London bombings, Ms. McLellan has said that Canadians must become "psychologically prepared" for such an attack.

She has also suggested such strikes are not related to the U.S.-led war in Iraq, in which Britain is a strong partner. Mr. Hindy believes the war in Iraq has caused young Muslims to want to fight against the United States and Britain. "I always say the No. 1 recruiter of al-Qaeda is George W. Bush," he said.

The imam said six or seven young men have approached him to discuss "fighting overseas" in place such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

He said he told them "people fighting in Iraq, they don't need more people."

Instead, Canadian Muslims can wage non-violent jihads (holy struggles) at home. "You have a very good chance to serve Islam here," he said he told them.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canuckistan; dhimmitude; jihadincanada; trop
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1 posted on 07/25/2005 7:06:11 AM PDT by Pikamax
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Nothing like "uncontrollable young people" to cause the Canadians to cave.


2 posted on 07/25/2005 7:07:47 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: Pikamax
"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"

Sounds like a threat to me.

Deport or shoot the punk!

3 posted on 07/25/2005 7:08:01 AM PDT by johnnyBbad
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can hosers say "Make My Day?"


4 posted on 07/25/2005 7:09:12 AM PDT by Loud Mime (thotline.com)
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Even Mr. Hindy said that despite his differences with security agencies "the Deputy Prime Minister, she was very understanding."

It seems Canada has "thrown in the towel".

My condolences to all Canadian conservatives, your country is GONE.

5 posted on 07/25/2005 7:09:34 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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To: Pikamax

Al Qanada.. I'll bet the jihadists don't even give them "a hand around". Pathetic..


6 posted on 07/25/2005 7:10:48 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: johnnyBbad

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"
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This guy should be hanging from a tree. These maggots should all be thrown out, IMMEDIATELY!!!!


7 posted on 07/25/2005 7:11:04 AM PDT by EagleUSA (S)
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"You have a very good chance to serve Islam here," he said he told them.

.....

Time to pull out the only good thing Trudeau ever gave us - the War Measures Act.


8 posted on 07/25/2005 7:11:14 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Pikamax

Arrest the bum!


9 posted on 07/25/2005 7:11:44 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Pikamax

The PC Liberals in Canada will have the spine of a wet noodle.


10 posted on 07/25/2005 7:13:32 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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....that a young Muslim woman complained to him she was roughed up by Canadian spies while her husband was away at prayers. This allegation could spur reprisals because "our women are the most valuable thing to us"

Important how, for breeding yourselves into the majority?

11 posted on 07/25/2005 7:14:18 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

Good. Then we'll just open the telephone directory and start deporting them in alphabetical order.
12 posted on 07/25/2005 7:14:25 AM PDT by Vinomori
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"we cannot control ourselves, and are not responsible for our actions."


(/s)


13 posted on 07/25/2005 7:15:21 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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The imam said six or seven young men have approached him to discuss "fighting overseas" in place such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

Wouldn't it be great if these guys meant that they wanted to go to these countries to help America (et al) spread democracy and freedom so the people there can experience a sliver of the relative paradise being experienced in Canada and the US?

Ya. Right.

14 posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:37 AM PDT by M203M4
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"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"

'you'd better control them, or we will.'

15 posted on 07/25/2005 7:18:32 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: EagleUSA
"These maggots should all be thrown out, IMMEDIATELY!!!!"

But they wont be and the reason that they wont be is that liberals, in general, and Canadian liberals, in particular, have absolutely no understanding of cause and effect. They can not imagine what the future holds for them. Just a guess here but, in my opinion, they care nothing for those who come after them and cling to the faulty old axiom which goes something like, "The evil of the day is sufficient thereof." Plainly put, what's said here is just worry about today and tomorrow will take care of itself.

16 posted on 07/25/2005 7:18:56 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: Pikamax

Once again muslums make what they think clear: they believe they are above the law


17 posted on 07/25/2005 7:18:56 AM PDT by sticker
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Like most Imams, this guy is a thug and a liar and a punk. The woman was probably roughed up by her own Muslim woman-fearing husband.


18 posted on 07/25/2005 7:20:10 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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a headline could read:

ISLAMIC LEADER CALLS FOR DEFIANCE AND TERRORISM IN RESPONSE TO GOVERNMENT INQUIRIES!

news flash to canada: deport the bums!

19 posted on 07/25/2005 7:20:20 AM PDT by NoClones
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To: Loud Mime

can hosers say "Make My Day?"

NO THEY CAN'T. The French influence has turned them into a wimpy socialist nation. Sad to see the collapse.


20 posted on 07/25/2005 7:22:20 AM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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