| British Opinion Surveys From an Islamist Hell |  |
FrontPageMagazine.com | July 25, 2005
Posted on 07/25/2005 5:09:09 AM PDT by SJackson
Guess how many Muslims in England are eager to embrace terror?
Estimating how many potential terrorists reside in one’s country is a highly inexact business, but there’s a striking correlation between a British government report recently leaked to
London’s Times a new opinion survey commissioned by the Daily Telegraph.Drawing on unidentified “intelligence,” the government report (analyzed by me at “The Next London Bombing”) finds as many as 16,000 “British Muslims actively engaged in terrorist activity.”
Then, using standard survey research methods, the reputable YouGov polling firm interviewed 526 Muslim adults across Great Britain online during July 15-22, weighing the data to reflect the British Muslim population’s age gender, and country of origin. The survey found that 1 percent of them, or “about 16,000 individuals, declare themselves willing, possibly even eager, to embrace violence” in the effort to bring an end to “decadent and immoral” Western society.
Should their ranks really be so thick, such a huge number of potential terrorists could cause for Britain an unprecedented security crisis, with all the attendant economic, social, political, and cultural ramifications one can imagine.
The YouGov survey contains many other statistics that should spark the interest, if not shock, of Britons and other Westerners.
· Muslims who see the 7/7 bombing attacks in London as justified on balance: 6 percent.
· Who feel sympathy for the “feelings and motives” of those who carried out the 7/7 attacks: 24 percent.
· Understand “why some people behave in that way”: 56 percent.
· Disagree with Tony Blair’s description of the ideology of the London bombers as “perverted and poisonous”: 26 percent.
· Feel not loyal towards Britain: 16 percent.
· Agree that “Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end”: 32 percent willing to use non-violent means and (as noted above) 1 percent willing to use violence “if necessary.” Just 56 percent of Muslims agree with the statement that “Western society may not be perfect but Muslims should live with it and not seek to bring it to an end.”
· Agree that “British political leaders don’t mean it when they talk about equality. They regard the lives of white British people as more valuable than the lives of British Muslims”: 52 percent.
· Dismiss political party leaders as insincere when saying “they respect Islam and want to co-operate with Britain’s Muslim communities”: 50 percent.
· Doubt that anyone charged with and tried for the 7/7 attacks would receive a fair trial: 44 percent.
· Would not inform about a Muslim religious leader “trying to ‘radicalise’ young Muslims by preaching hatred against the West”: 10 percent.
· Do not think people have a duty to go to the police if they “see something in the community that makes them feel suspicious”: 14 percent.
· Believe other Muslims would be reluctant to go to the police “about anything they see that makes them suspicious”: 41 percent.
· Would inform the police if they believed that knew about the possible planning of a terrorist attack: 73 percent. (In this case, the Daily Telegraph did not make available the negative percentage.)
Another opinion poll, this one commissioned by Sky News and carried out by Communicate Research (which interviewed 462 UK-based Muslims by telephone) found similar results:
· Muslims who agree with what the London suicide bombers did: 2 percent.
· Who believe there is a Koranic justification for the bombings: 5 percent.
· Disagree with the statement that “Muslim clerics who preach violence against the West are out of touch with mainstream Muslim opinion”: 46 percent.
· Think of themselves as Muslim first and British second: 46 percent. Another 42 percent do not differentiate between the identities. A mere 12 percent see themselves as British first and Muslim second.
Comments:
(1) It is hard to say which is the most alarming of these many worrisome statistics, but two stand out. That less than three-quarters of Muslims in Britain indicate they would tell the police about an impending terrorist attack raises grave doubts about the Blair government’s tactic of getting Muslims to police their own community. That one-third of Muslims do not accept British society and want to end it, presumably to pave the way for an Islamic order, casts comparable doubts on Britain’s much-vaunted multicultural ideal.
(2) Even the Telegraph’s interpreter of its survey, Professor Anthony King of Essex University, feels compelled to sugar the results, calling them “at once reassuring and disturbing, in some ways even alarming,” whatever that means. In several specific instances, he turns hair-raising statistics into cheerful ones (that 73 percent would warn of an impending terrorist attack he deems “impressive”). The newspaper’s and the professor’s panglossian attitude makes one wonder what might wake the British to the Islamist hell growing in their midst.
There you have it, nearly half of muslims polled say the preachers of hate represent mainstream Islam.
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Interesting article -- Daniel Pipes is always interesting.
I do wonder if we will start seeing changes in light of the shock at the "shoot to kill" policy.
Ping
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
A third of UK Muslims want to bring down Western society.
Can we PLEASE stop with the "it's only a tiny minority" crap already?
Fabulous.
I just don't think that muslims are telling the truth to pollsters. IMO the percentages are much higher.
Behind every terrorist is a vast support system, both monetary and ideology.
I think you zeroed in on the most revealing answer.
Bump
" That one-third of Muslims do not accept British society and want to end it,"
I'm not sure where he gets that. Maybe from this, " Agree that “Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end”: 32 percent willing to use non-violent means and (as noted above) 1 percent willing to use violence “if necessary.”"?
I think more than 1/3 of Christians (and those of other faiths) would probably agree that society is decadent and immoral and should be changed. It's the 1% who would use violence to do so that's significant.
You are correct, many muzzies know this poll will be published and lied in their answers. Taqiyya in action!!
The survey found that 1 percent of them, or “about 16,000 individuals, declare themselves willing, possibly even eager, to embrace violence” in the effort to bring an end to “decadent and immoral” Western society.
And it would just about require holding guns to their heads to get those turds to return to the islamic hellholes from whence they (or their parents) came.
Well, excellent, this goes right to the heart of it, for Britain, and perhaps for most countries in the West with sizable Muslim populations. Hearing what's been coming from the UK Muslims for so long, I've never been able to figure out just why they put up with them. They are THE
mouthiest and most rhetorically aggressive of ANY Western Muslims I know about. And NOW they are MORE than rhetorically aggressive, now they have July 7 under their collective belt. If Britain would simply DEPORT 40-50% of them back to their countries of origin, Britain would be able to clean itself up, and the entire country could breathe a sigh of relief. Jailing them is beside the point: they are even less likely to be re-integrated back into Brit Society, because they were never integrated to begin with. This MUST happen world=wide if we are going to survive as anything recognizably American, or British, or Spanish, or French, or any of those fond senses of identity that are fading fast every day. We owe these people NOTHING---there is no logical reason on Earth that we have to accommodate THEM, and not the other way around. They were given too much, and now they expect even more. It's an old story, and there is a LOT of reversal to be done.
You would think that Liberals would look at these numbers and WAKE UP!
“Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end”:
32 percent willing to use non-violent means and (as noted above) 1 percent willing to use violence “if necessary.”
Just 56 percent of Muslims agree with the statement that “Western society may not be perfect but Muslims should live with it and not seek to bring it to an end.”
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Liberals love decadance, you would think polls like this would wake them up. They would be the first to be beheaded for things like Pro Abortion and Neutering Males!!!!!!!
WAKE UP Liberals and Hollywarped, WAKE UP AND FIGHT terrorism with us, or you might be the first to go. The Muslims hate decadance.
Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them;
Well I have a mother, two sisters, and a daughter and I do not want ANYONE to beat them or hit them. I pity the man who lays a hand on my precious daughter!!!!!!
I don't know if that's true or not. However the question wasn't should be changed but Muslims should seek to bring it to an end
I don't think a third number of Christians desire to bring Western Civilization to an end.
Additionally, if the survey is correct, that third provides support and cover necessary for violence.
An Act in addition to the act, entitled "An act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States. "
SEC. I Be it enacted . . ., That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty; and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot. unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.
IMHO the Koran teaches and the Mullahs preach Sedition in America; England will have to handle her own problems - ours is very apparent. Between the Hate Crime Act and The Law of Sedition, we can and should incarcerate or deport any and all who use rhetoric from a "book" as an excuse to over throw our government and the American people.
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