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Toyota, Moving Northward
The New York Times ^

Posted on 07/25/2005 3:31:53 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland

Edited on 07/25/2005 3:50:02 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Modern American politics is dominated by the doctrine that government is the problem, not the solution. In practice, this doctrine translates into policies that make low taxes on the rich the highest priority, even if lack of revenue undermines basic public services. You don't have to be a liberal to realize that this is wrong-headed. Corporate leaders understand quite well that good public services are also good for business. But the political environment is so polarized these days that top executives are often afraid to speak up against conservative dogma.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: autoworkers; canada; economics; healthcare; trollsighting
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if hillary gets elected this is the economic mindset the country will have to deal with
1 posted on 07/25/2005 3:31:54 AM PDT by JohnLongIsland
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Big business titans love Big Government because they can squeeze the competition and have the taxpayers subsidize their inefficiencies. Call it Corporate Socialism.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 07/25/2005 3:36:37 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: JohnLongIsland

Because we all know that throwing money at the K-12 government educations system *always* results in better educated H.S. graduates. < /sarcasm, for the sarcasm meter-impaired>

This guy is totally blind, unable to see that basic assumptions and premises of his arguments are fatally flawed.


3 posted on 07/25/2005 3:41:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank) (NRA)
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To: goldstategop

I agree. That's "Corporate Socialism".


5 posted on 07/25/2005 3:43:35 AM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: heavyfella

Bye.


7 posted on 07/25/2005 3:45:27 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (I'm a victim of Rovian mind control.)
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To: JohnLongIsland
Canada's health care system has far lower costs per person than the American system, with its huge administrative expenses.

Well yeah, if patients are denied care it tends to keep costs down.

8 posted on 07/25/2005 3:45:59 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: JohnLongIsland
In practice, this doctrine translates into policies that make low taxes on the rich the highest priority, even if lack of revenue undermines basic public services.

Quit reading at this point. Friedman is an economic illiterate...JFK

10 posted on 07/25/2005 3:46:56 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: heavyfella

LOL, I don't think so. I just know you aren't gonna last for even one day here.


11 posted on 07/25/2005 3:47:36 AM PDT by Tom_Busch (I'm a victim of Rovian mind control.)
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To: heavyfella; Admin Moderator

Troll alert. First thing out of his keyboard is name calling. Typical...JFK


12 posted on 07/25/2005 3:47:47 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: BADROTOFINGER

OOHH! IBZ???


13 posted on 07/25/2005 3:48:50 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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You got it. Smelling ozone already...JFK


14 posted on 07/25/2005 3:49:13 AM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: heavyfella
Wow, such a deep, penetrating thinker. And so original too. What are you, 26 years old?
15 posted on 07/25/2005 3:49:14 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: heavyfella
Troll alert


16 posted on 07/25/2005 3:49:15 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: heavyfella
Blow it out your bunghole, troll. We're still laughing at your failures.


17 posted on 07/25/2005 3:50:50 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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"Big business titans love Big Government because they can squeeze the competition and have the taxpayers subsidize their inefficiencies. Call it Corporate Socialism."

Been there, done that. It was called "National Socialism" in Germany, where Hitler used the corporations for his benefit.

When I first started reading this article, I thought it was a satire. Then I saw it was Krugman and I realized it was unabashed socialism.

"So what's the impact on taxpayers? In Canada, there's no impact at all: since all Canadians get government-provided health insurance in any case, the additional auto jobs won't increase government spending."

False. More jobs lead to more taxes, which leads to more spending.

He also says:

"You might be tempted to say that Canadian taxpayers are, in effect, subsidizing Toyota's move by paying for health coverage. But that's not right, even aside from the fact that Canada's health care system has far lower costs per person than the American system, with its huge administrative expenses. In fact, U.S. taxpayers, not Canadians, will be hurt by the northward movement of auto jobs."

Canada has far lower costs per person because medicine is under price controls. This restricts the quanity, leading to 6 month wait for an MRI. Therefore, Canadians come to the US for health care. Read any Mark Steyn article on Canadian health care.


18 posted on 07/25/2005 3:52:11 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (God is offering you eternal life right now. Freep mail me if you want to know how to receive it.)
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To: heavyfella

Nuked, and OUTTA HERE!!!

heavyfella
This account has been banned or suspended.




Okay


19 posted on 07/25/2005 3:52:31 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: goldstategop
Big business titans love Big Government ...

That bears repeating. Always be skeptical of opinions from the Business Roundtable. That's the lobby group for big business. They'll frequently support more government spending and onerous regulations.

20 posted on 07/25/2005 3:53:01 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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