The Nazi connection to Islamic terrorism - (excellent history!)

SULLIVAN-COUNTRY.COM ^ | APRIL 5, 2004 | DR. SAMUEL L. BLUMENFELD

[FormerLib]

A Balkans ping.

[EdReform]

BTTT

islam explained

[Diocletian]

For the millionth time, the Handzar Division had no role in the Holocaust of the Jews.

[CHARLITE]

"For the millionth time, the Handzar Division had no role in the Holocaust of the Jews."

Thanks for the clarification. Can you elaborate?

Thanks.

Char

[Diocletian]

The Handzar was formed to patrol the far northwestern corner of Bosnia in 1943 so as to act as a buffer between Partisans and the German Volksdeutsche in neighbouring Srijem region. The Handzar was intended by Himmler to be a wholly Muslim force, but the Croatian Poglavnik lobbied Hitler to include some Croatians since he feared that this group would try to form an autonomous Bosnian protectorate under the Germans.

The Handzar themselves had a German officer corps and had some Imams attached to them. They were horrifed to learn that they had to cooperate with Serb Chetniks in sweeps against Partisans, when in fact they wanted revenge against these very Chetniks.

The Best English book on the Handzar is written by American author George Lepre.

[zagor-te-nej]

Muslim brotherhood site:
Great people of Islamic revival - http://www.youngmuslims.ca/biographies/
Alija Izetbegovic is second on the list:

Who started in Bosnia:
1991 --- VOX magazine cover from October 1991 showing Bosnian Muslim soldier in Nazi SS Division Handzar stepping on decapitated heads of Serbian leaders. Caption reads: "Spremna Handzar Divizija" (The Handzar Division is ready).
http://www.pogledi.co.yu/english/srebrenica/index.php

Islam Under the Swastika : Islam and Nazis
The Grand Mufti and the Nazi Protectorate of Bosnia-Hercegovina, 1941-1945
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/022.shtml

[zagor-te-nej]

Regarding the Handzar division, the "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" writes:
"These Muslim volunteer units, called Hanjar (sword), were put in Waffen-SS units, fought Yugoslav partisans in Bosnia, and carried out police and security duties in Hungary. They participated in the massacre of civilians in Bosnia and volunteered to join in the hunt for Jews in Croatia..."
-- Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, Edition 1990, Volume 2, page 707
The civilians whom Handzar massacred were mainly Serbs and Roma ('Gypsies'). They also slaughtered Jews, wherever they could find them.
When Mr. Izetbegovic resurrected this Waffen SS division he was telling Serbs, Roma and Jews: "Handzar is back!"

[CHARLITE]

Thank you. THANK YOU! - immensely! This is information to keep. Very important.......also for the previous one just above this one. Very good of you to make the effort to give us specific sources.

Very much appreciated.

Char

[Diocletian]

His info is erronoeous.

[Diocletian]

They had no role regarding Jews. Can you provide dates where they did? Trust me, you can't.

[zagor-te-nej]

If "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust" is not good enough for you go to Goggle and type words handzar, division, Jews … or similar combination and you will get hundreds and hundreds of hits - and that is only in English. As for other info, maybe you should consult your relatives and cousins - they should be able to provide you with dates.

“They had no role regarding Jews” that is quite interesting reaction. I mean, after all, we are talking here about Nazi's Waffen SS murderous scam, personally recruited for Hitler by Arafat's Nazi Uncle - Haj Amin al-Husseini!

Are you ticked off because information I’ve posted proves that Croats were not only one to kill Jews in former Yugoslavia.

[CHARLITE]

"Are you ticked off ...?"

I'm not the least "ticked off." I was only seeking information, and I take your word for that which you have provided. Thanks so much. I wasn't questioning you at all. Maybe Diocletian was, but not I.

Char

[zagor-te-nej]

Message was meant for Diocletian. For some reason idea that Muslim, Nazi SS were killing Jews disturbed him. I’ve include you FYI.
Sorry my mistake!

[Diocletian]

That info isn't good enough. It is directly contradicted by George Lepre's work. I need dates and actions as proof.

[Diocletian]

Hi Charlite! Can you tell me the dates when the Handzar was supposedly involved with rounding up or killing Jews?

[CHARLITE]

I'm not the one to ask about this, as I simply posted the article.

zagor-te-nej would be the FR participant to ask, as I have no detailed knowledge of this issue.

Thanks for asking, but you need to ask him (or her).

Char :)

[zagor-te-nej]

If you chose so, no info will be good for you, and Croats are pretty good at that.

Court rules that Holocaust survivors' lawsuit against the Vatican can proceed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1424472/posts?q=1&&page=188#188

Contradicts his work – so what? Lepre is one source and there is wealth of information out there. You can go to some good search engine or contact "Encyclopedia of the Holocaust", and ask them. Handzar members were Waffen SS murderous scam, going around and killing Serbs, Gypsies and Jews – that is enough for me. What you need is of little consequence for me.

[Diocletian]

I asked them and they had nothing specific. Lepre has the specifics.