Posted on 07/24/2005 3:31:09 AM PDT by Hadean
Scotland Yard Commissioner Sir Ian Blair today admitted further people could be shot as detectives hunt down the would-be suicide bombers who tried to bring further carnage to London last week.
His comments followed the fatal shooting of innocent Brazilian electrician Jean Charles de Menezes, 27, who was killed by undercover police officers on Friday morning as he tried to board a Tube train at Stockwell, south London.
Sir Ian admitted there was a “shoot-to-kill policy” for tackling suicide bombers and it would not change, although the death of Mr de Menezes was a “tragedy”.
“Somebody else could be shot. But everything is done to make it right,” Sir Ian told Sunday with Adam Boulton on Sky News.
“This is a terrifying set of circumstances for individuals to make decisions.”
Sir Ian defended the actions of his officers, saying: ``What we have got to recognise is that people are taking incredibly difficult fast time decisions in life threatening situations.
“It wasn’t just a random event and what’s most important to recognise is that it’s still happening out there.
“There are still officers out there having to make those calls as we speak.”
He said Mr de Menezes had emerged from a “not very large” block of flats which had been under surveillance before he was followed to Stockwell station.
The shoot-to-kill procedures for dealing with suicide bombers would remain in place.
“They have to be that because there is no point in shooting at someone’s chest because that is where the bomb is likely to be,” he said.
“There is no point in shooting anywhere else if they fall down and detonate it.
“It is drawn from experience from other countries, including Sri Lanka. The only way to deal with this is to shoot to the head.”
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You nailed it.
They scummy Imams wasted no time in lamenting the tragedy.
It takes the heat of them and puts it on the cops, when in actuality, the media should tell the Imams to thin out their herds of murderers and this won't happen again.
Update to my previous post:
"Mr Menezes' cousin Mr Pereira said the 27-year-old was from the city of Gonzaga in Minas Gerais state, and had lived in London legally for at least three years and spoke excellent English."
Apparently worked as an electrician. Curiouser and curiouser...
Info taken from this on-line background article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4711639.stm
The Brazilian killed himself.
"It was a kind of "suicide by cop".
Suicide by cop!
Soitenly!
As I posted – “I’ve only read the initial reports (for what they’re worth).”
He must have been in a dead hurry to get somewhere.
That's suicidal behaviour. No wonder the lads opened fire.
Regards, Ivan
And your views aren't based on your "feelings" but rather pure logic and therefore true and beyond criticism.
The only thing that makes Scotland Yard's agents less laughable than Inspector Clouseau is that theirs have real guns.
The police in uniforms in London don't carry guns. These were plain clothes agents with guns. How is a guy going to work supposed to know these are really police? The guy panicked out of fear.
The radical Muslim clerics in London are free to preach death to the infidel, so maybe the police should be pointing their guns at Muslim preachers instead. Preferably right at the back of their heads.
Well said. That pretty much sums up the situation.
Not really. My views are based mostly on 23 years worth of experience in dealing with Muslims of various sects and nationalities behind bars, not to mention the problems that this country has had with Muslim agents and military personnel who have a hard time separating their religious beliefs from their duties. It's my estimation that the lack of participation from Muslims in bringing these people to justice is twofold: first and foremost is that many are scared to death of reprisals from their own if they provide assistance, and second, a good number of them support the attacks. If you can't get them to speak out against the attacks, how are you supposed to recruit them to spy for you?
And a Sky News poll on the shoot-to-kill policy showed the last time I looked, that 75% of the British people support it. It doesn't look like a whole lot of Brits are laughing at their police.
Yes, that is exactly the problem. And people like "Red" Ken, the mayor of London, are still making excuses for radical Muslems.
The West had quite a few spies during the Cold War despite the threat of being carted off to a gulag someplace. You won't infiltrate if:
And a Sky News poll on the shoot-to-kill policy showed the last time I looked, that 75% of the British people support it. It doesn't look like a whole lot of Brits are laughing at their police.
As for your statistics, I would be part of the group that supports a shoot to kill policy. But that doesn't mean I support the keystone cops with big guns shooting electricians on their way to work. Scotland Yards' undercover operations are laughable, but no more laughable than what has been going on at the FBI and CIA for the past 15 years.
The death of Mr de Menezes is another death on the heads of the muslim terrorists.
You are making an assumption that I am not ready to make. There are too many different versions of how the shooting took place. There are several contradictory versions in this article posted to FreeRepublic. Some of those "many people about" have a different account from the police.
My criticism isn't directed to the police who shot this guy, but rather it is to a government policy that allows extremist Muslims into the country. And then tries to deal with these consequences by shooting a guy when he runs to a subway train.
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