Tancredo won't back down

The Denver Post ^ | 7/19/2005 | Mike Soraghan and Anne C. Mulkern

[va4me]

The muslim "leaders" whining need to STF up. If 9/11 had happened any time prior to the 1960's, Mecca and Medina would already be glass parking lots. Americans have been about as patient as it gets. One of these days, we may not be so patient. Americans will only take it in the shorts so often until they get ugly.

How do you think the few million muslims here in the U.S. would react if we took such an action?

[va4me]

So what the Anti-immigration crowd needs to do is present so solid, workable ideas rather then foaming at the mouth anytime anyone points out how fundamentally unworkable their current ideas are.

How sad is it that some consider protecting our borders to be an "unworkable idea."

[mad_as_he$$]

I don't think he should apologize until all of the mullahs who have called for our destruction apologize and repent.

[537cant be wrong]

give me a break. his "lip service is ten times more than any other official has the nads to state.
at least he is willing to lay it out on the table unlike most RINOs.
by the way. only hit mecca and or madina when the camel humpers are making their hadj.
if i lived in his state he would get my vote on that statement alone.
enough is enough. the "moderate" muslims want us dead just as much as the radicals.
no mercy no quarter. complete victory for free society is the only answer.

[MNJohnnie]

"Dont be such a dhimmi dumbass.
Wait till the bombers hit LA, or NY. Then wait to control borders, we cant offend anyone while they are killing us.
Get bent.
If anything happens prior to '06, see who controls the house. Security first, political correctness last.
I have plenty of Lard for the Muslims"

Thank you for proving my point that the Tancradeo battalion are a bunch of hate filled bigots who have no actual ideas about how to solve the illegal immigration problem and have exactly ZERO chance of getting elected to any national office.

[JustAnAmerican]

Might want to post that Liberal Rag's link elsewhere. PollingReport even had the idiocy to push must undecided voters to Kerry's column before the 2004 election. Rigged numbers do not a poll make.DU might appreciate that link, I do not.

[axes_of_weezles]

Muslims are effectively losing their effectiveness by taking no action to stop "BLESSED" actions of their own.

Do you wish to open the borders to these lunatics?

Do you want sharia for law in the US?

It's time to stop worrying about what some islamokazi's feel and take some preventative actions to prevent a Eurabia in the US.

[DManA]

Wonder if a radioactive Kaba will remove the duty for Muslims to complete the Hajj or if they will keep coming and dying?

[MNJohnnie]

"Might want to post that Liberal Rag's link elsewhere. PollingReport even had the idiocy to push must undecided voters to Kerry's column before the 2004 election. Rigged numbers do not a poll make.DU might appreciate that link, I do not."

Thank you for proving my point that the Tancradeo battalion are a bunch of hate filled bigots who have no actual ideas about how to solve the illegal immigration problem and have exactly ZERO chance of getting elected to any national office

[JustAnAmerican]

Curious, you want Americans(people who support Illegals are not Americans in my book), to give you a "workable" way to stop illegal immigration. How about we enforce the laws currently on the books? Do a little research on I-9's and the Government's and employer's responsibility in reference to these forms.

But I guess our current laws just should not be enforced huh?

[cripplecreek]

I think the republican party is quite OK with Tancredos comments. They've been pretty silent about it considering how fast they threw Trent Lott overboard.

[va4me]

It's time to stop worrying about what some islamokazi's feel and take some preventative actions to prevent a Eurabia in the US.

I'm fortunate to be close with several refugees of Saddam's Iraq. Shiites who were forced out of their homes when Saddam purged powerful Shiites in the early 1970's. They are tremendous folks who have overcome a great deal of turmoil, and believe it or not, they are solid Republicans given that it was President Bush who freed their country. Many are working very hard to support the new government of Iraq, and our military members who are putting their lives on the line to bring freedom to the tens of millions of muslims living in Iraq.

So, I don't subscribe to the theory that all muslims are evil. Sorry. The folks I personally know want the same things the rest of us want, and abhor the violence committed by their fellow muslims as much if not more than non-muslims.

[neverdem]

Egypt clears London attack suspect

After I described the properties of the explosive believed to have been used on 7/7/05 in London to my best friend, who is an investigator type of LEO, which was also the explosive apparently used in the last London bombing attempt, he said that made Magdy el-Nashar more suspect.

[MichiganCheese]

I have some suggestions about concrete ideas. First, you deploy the national guard to guard our nation at the borders. Next you give any individual or company 30 days to deport (at their expense) any illegal alien under their employ. If they don't the owner/CEO/President will pay $1million fine and 25 years in jail for harboring. At the same time you turn to the fine citizen of the U.S for a little help. Pay them $200.00 for each illegal alien they identify and turn in. We would clean up our country in a matter of months. All of the money you save by not supporting the illegals could go towards tripling our efforts to streamline our LEGAL immigration efforts.

Just a few thoughts that may work...

[Oatka]

Thanks for posting the article and the actual transcript.

"Rafaat and Ludin said Colorado Muslims are seeking a meeting with Tancredo to discuss his comments. Tancredo spokesman Will Adams said he was not familiar with the request."
As in "Take a Hike!" Maybe this "gonaditis" will spread and prompt other politicians to say the same whenever some professional victim group is offended and demands a retraction.

[Black Tooth]

He gets my vote. "We wont back down".

"We can either be your best friend, or worst enemy".

This ought to be his campaign slogan.

I remember when Reagan took office, the the Iranians released the hostages and they were in the air the second Reagan took office.

Go Tancredo!

[JustAnAmerican]

For those that are interested, you might want to check out MNJohnnie's postings on this site. Notice the structure? The repeating of posts? My money's on MNJohnnie not being an American Citizen. That and the fact he uses Hate, Filled, Right Wing, and Bigot. All the telltale signs of a Liberal or Other-Than-American.

[axes_of_weezles]

Still, they get absolutely no sympathy from me.
Take a look at the CAIR website and see if you agree with their positions.
They (CAIR/muslims/libs/dhimmicrats) are denigrating the US by their "Torture at Gitmo" statements.

Do your friends agree with CAIR?

[Travis McGee]

Mecca IS Islam, in a way it is difficult for Westerners to comprehend. Two of the "five pillars of Islam" are based on worshipping that black moon-god rock called Al-Hajarul Aswad in Arabic. (5x daily prayer to the moon-rock, and the Haj or pilgrimage to visit and worship the moon-rock in person.) Muslims see the black stone not as symbolic, but as a physical manifestation of Allah on earth, a chunk of Allah fallen to earth. The black stone has the power to suck all of the sins and evil out of men performing the Hajj pilgrimage. (Interesting to note that Islam’s holy of holies is packed with all of the sins of all of the Muslims who ever made the Hajj.)

Devout Muslims believe that the black stone represents all of Allah's power and glory. They believe, sincerely, that if the USA launched rockets at Mecca, Allah would swat them away like flies, or turn them around to hit New York or Washington.

If Allah could not stop the”infidel” bombs, and Mecca was turned into a crater, this would constitute absolute proof that Muhammed was a fraud and a liar, and that the moon-god rock had no power after all.

This would mean the end of the entire cult of Islam. Their cult could not adapt to or respond to or overcome complete, visible proof that Allah was powerless to stop the infidel weapons.

Now, I'm not calling for or predicting Mecca will ever be bombed. Not unless American cities were destroyed by Islamofascist nuclear bombs first. Our insane enemies don't care if we threaten Cairo or Damascus. They would welcome such attacks, as providing mega-martyrs for Allah! Polls conducted in many Islamic nations have asked, "Would it be worth it to wipe Israel off the map with atomic bombs, if it meant millions of Muslims would die in the counterstrike?" The poll is answered YES! by high numbers. So targeting cities means nothing to our fanatical enemies.

Mecca, on the other hand, means everything to our enemies. Some of our semi-rational enemies must understand that if they nuke our cities, they may finally get a test of Allah's power to smite incoming missiles before they can hit and destroy Mecca and Allah’s black moon-god Ka’aba rock. These semi-rational enemies must understand this, so that they can influence the complete maniacs, and keep them from ever getting the nuclear weapons they would surely use against America, given the chance.

The semi-rational Islamists must understand that Mecca and Allah's all-powerful black moon-god rock are on the table, as a retaliatory target, if our cities are attacked with nukes.

Putting Mecca on the counterstrike target option list, even hypothetically, means far, far more to them than threats to change Arab regimes or bomb Muslim capitols.

I want the insane and semi-sane Islamofascists to understand this: nuke America, and Mecca is on the retaliation list. This is the only meaningful deterrent threat, to insane and semi-sane Islamofascists. If you wish the sane Muslims and semi-sane Islamists to influence the Islamofascists away from WMD attacks on the USA, let it be known that the very existence of Mecca, (and therefore their entire religion), is on the table.

(And don't bother with the trite comparison of Mecca and say, the Vatican. The Vatican is just the place the Pope hangs his miter. Catholics don't literally lay down and worship some idol in St. Peters 5 X a day, for 20 minutes. If Rome was nuked, it would not destroy Christianity. Christianity lies in the heart of each believer, in the concept of Jesus the Savior on the Cross, not in worshipping some physical idol or totem like Allah's black rock.

More Mecca reading

Islam: Meteorite Worship of the black stone HERE

[Travis McGee]

If the "moderate muslims" don't get a grip on the Islamofacists, then,

We're going to find out, sooner or later,

If Abdul will pray, to a glowing crater.