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To: MikeinIraq
So I guess you wouldn't want our military drug tested either?

Those in the military are not protected by the Constitution, but are governed by UCMJ.

Read the 4th Amendment. You cannot search someone without probable cause...a reason to believe they have committed a crime. The Supreme Court has wrongly ruled it is OK is some circumstances such as public safety.

Drug testing is humiliating and degrading and I, for one, will never submit to one. This is one of the two things Reagan did that I hate. The other were his asset forfeiture laws, which have been grossly abused by extremely corrupt members of our government.
37 posted on 07/22/2005 2:06:35 PM PDT by microgood
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To: microgood

well good for you.

I will, however, continue to pee in the cup whenever they ask, because it is required of me as a part of keeping my clearance AND my job.


41 posted on 07/22/2005 2:08:52 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Proud member of Planet ManRam)
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To: microgood
The Supreme Court has wrongly ruled it is OK is some circumstances such as public safety.

Just curious...is this the same Supreme Court that just did away with property rights?

64 posted on 07/22/2005 2:28:45 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: microgood; MikeinIraq
This is one of the two things Reagan did that I hate.

Drug testing made a huge difference in the quality of our military. I was in the Navy in the early eighties when drug testing began. They brought the drug-sniffing dogs through Combat Information Center(CIC). They found stashes of pot and other drugs behind every console in CIC. It amounted to nearly a quarter-pound of pot, with no individual stash larger than a quarter-ounce.

Needless to say, the Captain was furious. I know for a fact that the number of people that did drugs outnumbered people that did not on that ship (I know because I was one of the ones that did). Can you honestly say that you want people defending this country when they are stoned while at their watch stations?

Drug testing for the military was one of the many things that Reagan did that was right. The quality of our military has improved dramatically since I was in, and it is not just because of better equipment. One of the biggest reasons is because people in our military are no longer manning combat stations when they are stoned.

67 posted on 07/22/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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