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Teddy was a heinz 57. There was Dutch on his father side that went back to the New Amsterdam days. But this is a very good article. I am of Ulster Irish (Catholic, though) decent on my father's side. Actually in Ireland at the time, the Presbyterians were not held in any high esteem and had to pay a tithe to the Anglican Church just as Catholics did. In the mid 1700's especially, the Sots-Irish came here in droves. The Celticness of these folks was probably greater than many of the Lowland Scots. There were Presbyterian congregations in County Antrim and County Down who spoke Gaelic. There was a lot of back and forth migration from Scotland and Ulster from before the Plantation of James the First---and the Reformation. Being second class citizens at home, America was the perfect place for the Scots-Irish. If it weren't for them I don't think the American Revolution would have gained momentum. For all the brillant philosophical ideas that came out of the Enlightenment and found their way to our shores, one needs anger and a sense of having been wronged to keep a war going. The Scots-Irish came over here p*ssed off to begin with, that's why they fought so gallantly against the Red Coats. Unfortunately on the other side of the Atlantic, at the time of the French Revolution and the Irish Rebellion of 1798, the British used religion to divide the people of Ireland. As in our revolution, the thinkers and theorists were from the upper middle class. In Ireland's case it was the Anglo-Irish who were the leaders (Wolfe Tone) and the Ulster Scots Presbyterians for the most part who did the fighting---the Catholics took up arms in the south around Wexford but for the most part stayed out of this rebellion because of the Roman Catholic Church's disdain of most ideas coming out of the enlightenment....ie; the idea of a republican form of government.


20 posted on 07/22/2005 12:22:37 PM PDT by brooklyn dave (I got rejected from "Mullah Omar's Eye for the Infidel Guy")
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To: brooklyn dave

"the Sots-Irish"

Uhhhh....


40 posted on 07/22/2005 1:02:25 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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