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To: Tactical
I think what has everyone panties in a bunch is plain old fashion poor choice of wording, by using the word "RANDOM".

No, it isn't a poor choice of words. It's a poor choice of tactics. And, IMO, it's a violation of the Constitution.

Random is the correct word to describe the searches, because they ARE random.

They want to help stop this stuff, but if we are just going to argue back and forth, then guess who wins? Yup the terrorists.

The terrorists will win if we don't find them and kill them. They are committed to either kill us or convert us. Random searches will not find them, other than one or two by chance here and there.

606 posted on 07/23/2005 7:54:53 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: savedbygrace
The terrorists will win if we don't find them and kill them. They are committed to either kill us or convert us. Random searches will not find them, other than one or two by chance here and there.

I agree and go one step further. Every time a our way of life is changed due to "random" searches or other invasive measures. They win a small victory.

607 posted on 07/23/2005 8:03:39 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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To: savedbygrace
The terrorists will win if we don't find them and kill them.

They also win if they change our society from one of freedom-loving to one of a police state. The majority of countries these terrorists either come from, or are funded or controlled from, are some form of dictatorship (whether it's dressed up as royalty or whatever).

Freedom and democracy are two of the biggest threats the terrorists and their masters in the Middle East face. That is why they are doing everything they can to undermine the democratic process in Iraq, whether it be killing Iraqis going to vote, or who are officials, elected or otherwise.

Unfortunately, in the United States they have plenty of accidental allies who would love to see a police state take over.

I'm not just talking about the Hillary Clintons pushing for more cameras all over the place, as she's done this week, because there are plenty of people on the right who want a police state as well (not just the ones happy that the PATRIOT Act is now permanent either). As a matter of fact, there were some in our government pushing such extreme measures after 9/11, that if they were proposed by Bill Clinton during his time as President, Republicans would have been going absolutely nuts, but because they were proposed under a Republican President, Republicans actually considered them.
612 posted on 07/23/2005 5:35:16 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: savedbygrace

Yea , they shouldnt be random at all..The SMART thing would be to profile people and search them ..Miseastern Males in particular . But God forbid NYC do anything thats not PC. That would just make too much sense.


631 posted on 07/24/2005 1:35:17 PM PDT by hineybona
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